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Classic albums since 2000
_That_Cracka_J:
Only one that comes to mind since 2000 is Stillmatic.
We Fly High:
this is kinda since 2000, it came out in Oct 1999... so like 2-3 months before 2000. but the only classic album in my opinion is Black on Both Sides by Mos Def. Every track is stand out solid from beginning to end. This cd represented a newcoming of hip hop classics since like the days of tribe called quest, gangstarr, and that era...(i remember even on a mos def gold plaque i had, it said "the new hip hop classics" on it)... i dont think you can doubt the artistic and createive value of every single track on there. he's able to flip the craziest verses on the most absurd topics too, that no other rapper would ever rap about... who the hell would ever rap about Water??? mos did it, and KILLED it. dude his flow on this cd is amazing, hes able to ride the beats so well.. tracks like mathetmatics with primo... ms fat booty, habitat, umi says,speed law, do it now, know that... the whole album sounds hella cohesive too like every single track belongs on there.. i believe that Black on both sides will definitely be looked back on as a classic in a feew years, maybe slept on, but illmatic was slept on as well... i put this cd in the ranks of low ened theory and gangstarr and shit.. easily one of my top 10 favorite cds. and it was great too when he came out, he was like at the forefront of a new hip hop movement.. and when you listen to this cd you can actually tell that mos def was like puttin in all his artistic efforts and creativity into it..
i define classic by being an album that you can listen to in ten years, fifteen years, twenty, for the rest of your life... and it'll sound just as fresh as it did now..
in my opinion, i dont know how stillmatic can be a classic. that cd is somewhat weak in my opinion. i can MAYBE listen to it twice and shut it off. i mean its good effort and all, and probably a little bit better than what else was coming out at the moment, but still doesnt give it an excuse to call it classic. there isnt even a single standout trackf ro me on this album.. i mean there were some pretty good songs like ether and shit, rewind, got urself a gun and shit, but man, in my opinion there isnt any replay value at all to it. even though i dont even listen to the album now, i definitely wouldnt' even bother listening to it five years from now either.
kanye west, it was a good album, but it will never be a classic. i dont see how it can be a classic with songs like Workout Plan and what not ( i like the track, but even im willing to admit that in no way will i be listening to it in a few years)... it was a lot better than everything else coming out, but still not a classic. it was good beats and all, but aint nothing too impressive with the rhymes.
i think we were all just let down with such a a decrease in quality of music, that we just started picking any cd that was somewhat good. i've been listening to rap since like 1992, 1993 so i've heard it all. and the only classic album in my opinion that was released in the past five years is Black on both sides.. his cd actually SOUNDS LIKE REAL MUSIC.. it doesn't sound like a rap album, even though it is.
Lincoln:
^^ I agree with what you're saying about Mos Def, but I think it's too early to call it a classic. However, that album is one of my faves from all genres.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Lincoln The Reform-A-Tory on December 21, 2004, 08:11:43 PM ---^^ I agree with what you're saying about Mos Def, but I think it's too early to call it a classic. However, that album is one of my faves from all genres.
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5 years, I think is a good time to call it a classic. It's been 5 years.
See the thing is with hip-hop, a classic album is something that will never sound fresh 5-10 years from now. Listen to Run-DMC's old shit, listen to Paid in Full, Criminal Minded, Doggystyle, all of that. It all sounds dated because rap musics sound always changes to whatever is hot. Honestly, the only albums that are classics in terms of classic albums by normal standards are Illmatic, Makaveli and The Chronic. Doggystyle, Ready to Die, Blueprint, all of them, they are classic hip-hop records, but not classic music records. You guys are judging them as the same, but they are not. Hip-Hop is always changing, always fresh. In 3 years crunck will be dissed by most of the hip-hop world.
A hip-hop classic is an album that either defines of changes hip-hop. Criminal Minded defined street hip-hop, Paid in Full changed rhyming, Chronic changed hip-hop to G-Funk, Doggystyle defined G-Funk, Straight Outta Compton introduced gangsta rap, Makaveli defined the whole beef era of the mid-90's, Illmatic defined the New York comeback, Stillmatic reintroduced raw street hip-hop tp the mainstream, Blueprint defined the jiggy era in a way that's just hip-hop, Chronic 2001 changed rap production to sound better, and The College Dropout changed rap into a commerical meets conscience, or as Kanye says a backpacker with a Jag.
Now some parts of hip-hop don't have classics, 'cause hip-hop would rather forget they existed. Hammer or Vanilla Ice never produced a classic because they made hip-hop look bad. Crunk I doubt will produce a classic album, just like Miami booty shaking never produced a classic. The dance era of Marky Mark and C&C Music Factory has no classics to call it's own, like the Bling Bling era of Cash Money, No Limit from the south, Bad Boy to the east and a lost coast on the west. But for the eras that hip-hop prides it's self on, classics will be produced.
Don Breezio:
my list of classics is as follows....i dont expect people to agree with me but these are albums i feel are classics to me...so whatever
Sticky Fingaz - Blacktrash: The Autobiography Of Kirk Jones
Jay-Z - The Black Album
Little Brother - The Listening
Nas - Stillmatic
Nas - The Lost Tapes (even though the recordings were from before)
TQ - The Second Coming
Albums That Come Close
Wyclef Jean - Preachers Son
Jay-Z - The Blueprint
Kanye West - College Dropout
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