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Quote from: Now_I_Know on December 26, 2004, 10:36:11 AMQuote from: Antonio on December 26, 2004, 03:38:39 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on December 25, 2004, 06:19:20 PMQuote from: Antonio on December 25, 2004, 05:13:03 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on December 25, 2004, 04:42:02 PMLOL, then what woulda' been a better shot than that, Mr. NBA analyst?A 2 points shot. With 3 seconds remaining? I don't think so...Why not? I mean in Europe they prefeer to make another OT rather than doing the thing everybody is expecting.. done by the guy everybody is doubling.. In fact they doubled Kobe and Kobe shot from 3pts. Like everybody was expecting. And he didnt have enought balance when he shot. But i understand in the NBA they usually play to make the last WINNING shot rather than a 2 points play.The paint was being guarded, so there was no way to throw the ball into the painted area without having it deflected, and it takes a lot more than 3 seconds to drive the ball in and get a nice look at a lay-up...Kobe took the best shot possible, and that's probably the play Tomjonavich drew out...This isn't Europe, buddy.No, it's not that the paint was guarded. It's that, like you said, both Kobe & Rudy T wanted Kobe to shot from 3pts. It wasnt an European game, I know. But i aint blaming Kobe.. It's all good, he deserved that shot.
Quote from: Antonio on December 26, 2004, 03:38:39 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on December 25, 2004, 06:19:20 PMQuote from: Antonio on December 25, 2004, 05:13:03 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on December 25, 2004, 04:42:02 PMLOL, then what woulda' been a better shot than that, Mr. NBA analyst?A 2 points shot. With 3 seconds remaining? I don't think so...Why not? I mean in Europe they prefeer to make another OT rather than doing the thing everybody is expecting.. done by the guy everybody is doubling.. In fact they doubled Kobe and Kobe shot from 3pts. Like everybody was expecting. And he didnt have enought balance when he shot. But i understand in the NBA they usually play to make the last WINNING shot rather than a 2 points play.The paint was being guarded, so there was no way to throw the ball into the painted area without having it deflected, and it takes a lot more than 3 seconds to drive the ball in and get a nice look at a lay-up...Kobe took the best shot possible, and that's probably the play Tomjonavich drew out...This isn't Europe, buddy.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on December 25, 2004, 06:19:20 PMQuote from: Antonio on December 25, 2004, 05:13:03 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on December 25, 2004, 04:42:02 PMLOL, then what woulda' been a better shot than that, Mr. NBA analyst?A 2 points shot. With 3 seconds remaining? I don't think so...Why not? I mean in Europe they prefeer to make another OT rather than doing the thing everybody is expecting.. done by the guy everybody is doubling.. In fact they doubled Kobe and Kobe shot from 3pts. Like everybody was expecting. And he didnt have enought balance when he shot. But i understand in the NBA they usually play to make the last WINNING shot rather than a 2 points play.
Quote from: Antonio on December 25, 2004, 05:13:03 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on December 25, 2004, 04:42:02 PMLOL, then what woulda' been a better shot than that, Mr. NBA analyst?A 2 points shot. With 3 seconds remaining? I don't think so...
Quote from: Now_I_Know on December 25, 2004, 04:42:02 PMLOL, then what woulda' been a better shot than that, Mr. NBA analyst?A 2 points shot.
LOL, then what woulda' been a better shot than that, Mr. NBA analyst?
Quote from: Shallow on December 25, 2004, 09:56:32 PMQuote from: LosAngelesBalla276 on December 25, 2004, 08:13:08 PMuhhh shaq hasnt proved shit without Kobe on his team. he has no finals games wins w/out Kobe. so how could u call shaq a "winner" and kobe a "loser?" not real good logicBecause I have always believed that Shaq was the reason for the wins and Kobe could have been replaced with about 7 or 8 different guys, while Shaq could have been replaced by only Duncan. The next couple years will show if I'm right or not.and NIK, Kobe has never shown me anything outside of a few high light reel appearances to make me think he's anywhere near Bird yet.You must not watch basketball...Without Kobe, there is no way the Lakers would've won 3 straight championships...NO WAY IN HELL...You gotta be one dumbass not to know that.
Quote from: LosAngelesBalla276 on December 25, 2004, 08:13:08 PMuhhh shaq hasnt proved shit without Kobe on his team. he has no finals games wins w/out Kobe. so how could u call shaq a "winner" and kobe a "loser?" not real good logicBecause I have always believed that Shaq was the reason for the wins and Kobe could have been replaced with about 7 or 8 different guys, while Shaq could have been replaced by only Duncan. The next couple years will show if I'm right or not.and NIK, Kobe has never shown me anything outside of a few high light reel appearances to make me think he's anywhere near Bird yet.
uhhh shaq hasnt proved shit without Kobe on his team. he has no finals games wins w/out Kobe. so how could u call shaq a "winner" and kobe a "loser?" not real good logic
Quote from: KING VerbalAssaulta on December 26, 2004, 07:23:40 AMlol...the lakers are in a fight for the 7th and 8th seeds...kobe doesnt make anyone better the way shaq does..the lakers fucked up...kobe = ball hog, dribbles 2 much, shoots 2 much...and doesnt get anyone else involvedOnce again it's easy to reply to you with stats: KOBE RANKS #6 IN NBA IN ASSIST PER GAME (7.2)The truth is that Miami is a better team than the Lakers (without George, Butler and Divac), that Wade and Eddie Jones are two very good players (i just loved Eddie.. like everyone but Shaq did, in L.A.), that Leattner helped them a lot from the bench, that they had 4 different players rotating and defending on Kobe, and that Riley is the best coach ever to make games for a Center (remember Kareem?).On the other side, Rudy T doesnt even have a gamebook: he just gives the ball to Kobe and Kobe creates. On the other side, Lakers have no decent players coming from the bench. And yesterday they started with Atkins, Mihm and Jumaine Jones. 3 decent back-up players, but nothing more. And if you consider the bench players were even worse......I think you all disrespect Kobe too much. Yesterday Kobe did a great game, Shaq a pretty good (but nothing special) game. Yesterday Kobe did the last shot to win the game, while Shaq was so dumb to make a stupid foul against Kobe (his 6th) letting his team without him for the 4th quarter and the OT.And, the last thing, you care too much about Kobe and Shaq. Or Jordan and Pippen. But remember a good supporting cast is fundamental: players like Horace Grant, Rodman, Harper, Paxon, Kerr, Horry, Fisher, Fox, Shaw, etc.. deserves the ring just like Kobe & Shaq. Cause it's a basketball TEAM, that's not tennis or golf.So please, give it up with that random nonsense shit..Lakers are in a fight for the 7th and 8th seeds..? Does it mean Miami did a wonderful game and Shaq dominated? Or viceversa?
lol...the lakers are in a fight for the 7th and 8th seeds...kobe doesnt make anyone better the way shaq does..the lakers fucked up...kobe = ball hog, dribbles 2 much, shoots 2 much...and doesnt get anyone else involved
if kobe is so great..why are the lakers medicore in a fight for the last play off spot...some of you kobe dickriders where saying b4 the season they would be contend for the west title...kobe is same thing as tmac was last year in orlando....thank god the jordan comparisons can stop now since we see now that kobe cant carry a team on his own and now we realize this was shaq's team that won the 3 titles and kobe was ala scottie pippen/james worthy/kevin mchale.
Bottom line, there's no way to get the ball into the paint for a lay-up without taking a huge risk.
if kobe is so great..why are the lakers medicore in a fight for the last play off spot...some of you kobe dickriders where saying b4 the season they would be contend for the west title...
kobe is same thing as tmac was last year in orlando....thank god the jordan comparisons can stop now since we see now that kobe cant carry a team on his own and now we realize this was shaq's team that won the 3 titles and kobe was ala scottie pippen/james worthy/kevin mchale.
Quote from: Antonio on December 26, 2004, 07:34:52 AMQuote from: KING VerbalAssaulta on December 26, 2004, 07:23:40 AMlol...the lakers are in a fight for the 7th and 8th seeds...kobe doesnt make anyone better the way shaq does..the lakers fucked up...kobe = ball hog, dribbles 2 much, shoots 2 much...and doesnt get anyone else involvedOnce again it's easy to reply to you with stats: KOBE RANKS #6 IN NBA IN ASSIST PER GAME (7.2)The truth is that Miami is a better team than the Lakers (without George, Butler and Divac), that Wade and Eddie Jones are two very good players (i just loved Eddie.. like everyone but Shaq did, in L.A.), that Leattner helped them a lot from the bench, that they had 4 different players rotating and defending on Kobe, and that Riley is the best coach ever to make games for a Center (remember Kareem?).On the other side, Rudy T doesnt even have a gamebook: he just gives the ball to Kobe and Kobe creates. On the other side, Lakers have no decent players coming from the bench. And yesterday they started with Atkins, Mihm and Jumaine Jones. 3 decent back-up players, but nothing more. And if you consider the bench players were even worse......I think you all disrespect Kobe too much. Yesterday Kobe did a great game, Shaq a pretty good (but nothing special) game. Yesterday Kobe did the last shot to win the game, while Shaq was so dumb to make a stupid foul against Kobe (his 6th) letting his team without him for the 4th quarter and the OT.And, the last thing, you care too much about Kobe and Shaq. Or Jordan and Pippen. But remember a good supporting cast is fundamental: players like Horace Grant, Rodman, Harper, Paxon, Kerr, Horry, Fisher, Fox, Shaw, etc.. deserves the ring just like Kobe & Shaq. Cause it's a basketball TEAM, that's not tennis or golf.So please, give it up with that random nonsense shit..Lakers are in a fight for the 7th and 8th seeds..? Does it mean Miami did a wonderful game and Shaq dominated? Or viceversa?easy reply...kobe dominates the ball... someone has to fill up the stat sheet on an average team...key stat...look at the lakers record
When you are at home, it is pretty likely you either make the lay-up/dunk or get 'fouled' and make them FTs. It's of course not 100% or something, but hey shooting a 3pt shot when everybody knows you're the one to do it after you havent scored for over 7 minutes isnt 100% sure to make it either, is it?