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U.S. Pays Commentator to Tout No Child Left Behind
Ant:
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--- Quote from: Ant on January 09, 2005, 02:03:23 PM ---BTW i'm still waiting on some sort of perverted justification for the fact that the Bush Administration is paying people off to say good things about their policies. Fuck arguing about NCLB, thats another thread. Altho maybe some of you will surprise me and actual admit this was blatantly wrong.
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they pay millions of dollars to run commercials bashing the other person running for president...what's wrong with them getting a well known person to say something good...the person is getting paid if he accepts....it's called a fucking job.....they can pay me that much and i'll give positive reviews for gigli, glitter and crossroads and say those were the best movies i've ever seen
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Yes, and they pay for political ccommercials with their own money. This was the Bush administration using your taxpayer money, to pay people off, to say good things about their policies.
Which brings up another question. If their policies are obviously good, why do they need to pay people off to say good things about them? Shouldn't this guy have wanted to say the good things about NCLB on his own? Not only that, but Williams is a syndicated personality. He already has a job and recieves a pay check for discussing these types of issues. Why did he need extra compensation to talk about NCLB in a positive manner?
Thirteen:
--- Quote from: Ant on January 10, 2005, 07:20:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: Needles Kane on January 10, 2005, 04:21:07 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ant on January 09, 2005, 02:03:23 PM ---BTW i'm still waiting on some sort of perverted justification for the fact that the Bush Administration is paying people off to say good things about their policies. Fuck arguing about NCLB, thats another thread. Altho maybe some of you will surprise me and actual admit this was blatantly wrong.
--- End quote ---
they pay millions of dollars to run commercials bashing the other person running for president...what's wrong with them getting a well known person to say something good...the person is getting paid if he accepts....it's called a fucking job.....they can pay me that much and i'll give positive reviews for gigli, glitter and crossroads and say those were the best movies i've ever seen
--- End quote ---
Yes, and they pay for political ccommercials with their own money. This was the Bush administration using your taxpayer money, to pay people off, to say good things about their policies.
Which brings up another question. If their policies are obviously good, why do they need to pay people off to say good things about them? Shouldn't this guy have wanted to say the good things about NCLB on his own? Not only that, but Williams is a syndicated personality. He already has a job and recieves a pay check for discussing these types of issues. Why did he need extra compensation to talk about NCLB in a positive manner?
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anna nicole smith has 89 million dollars and she does trim spa commercials...shaq has a multi million dollar contract and does icy hot commercials, carrot top has those 1 800 collect commercials... fact is, noboy promotes something for free on commercials..i thought this was common sense
Ant:
--- Quote from: Needles Kane on January 10, 2005, 09:59:04 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ant on January 10, 2005, 07:20:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: Needles Kane on January 10, 2005, 04:21:07 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ant on January 09, 2005, 02:03:23 PM ---BTW i'm still waiting on some sort of perverted justification for the fact that the Bush Administration is paying people off to say good things about their policies. Fuck arguing about NCLB, thats another thread. Altho maybe some of you will surprise me and actual admit this was blatantly wrong.
--- End quote ---
they pay millions of dollars to run commercials bashing the other person running for president...what's wrong with them getting a well known person to say something good...the person is getting paid if he accepts....it's called a fucking job.....they can pay me that much and i'll give positive reviews for gigli, glitter and crossroads and say those were the best movies i've ever seen
--- End quote ---
Yes, and they pay for political ccommercials with their own money. This was the Bush administration using your taxpayer money, to pay people off, to say good things about their policies.
Which brings up another question. If their policies are obviously good, why do they need to pay people off to say good things about them? Shouldn't this guy have wanted to say the good things about NCLB on his own? Not only that, but Williams is a syndicated personality. He already has a job and recieves a pay check for discussing these types of issues. Why did he need extra compensation to talk about NCLB in a positive manner?
--- End quote ---
anna nicole smith has 89 million dollars and she does trim spa commercials...shaq has a multi million dollar contract and does icy hot commercials, carrot top has those 1 800 collect commercials... fact is, noboy promotes something for free on commercials..i thought this was common sense
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He wasn't promoting these things on commercials. And he does get paid, he gets paid for writing his columns from the company he works for. The issue is that he got paid extra to write good things about Bush. You honestly don't there is an issue with the government paying off journalists to say good things about them?
We're not talking about Anna Nicole Smith appearing in an advertisement. We're talking about a journalist being given extra money on top of his normal pay check, specifically to say good things about the Bush Administration. His job is to comment on the news and give his opinion. That is what he is already paid for. If he actually liked NCLB he should have said so.
On top of that. Anna Nicole Smith is paid for by a private corporation, and even though your analogy doesn't relate. I will remind you that this guy was paid for with TAX PAYER money. We're paying taxes to have journalists paid off? Its one thign when Bush runs his campaign and spends money on false ads. He is using his own money to run those ads. This was your money, being used to pay off a journalists to say good thigns about Bush, and it was done in secret.
Thirteen:
--- Quote from: Ant on January 10, 2005, 12:29:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: Needles Kane on January 10, 2005, 09:59:04 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ant on January 10, 2005, 07:20:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: Needles Kane on January 10, 2005, 04:21:07 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ant on January 09, 2005, 02:03:23 PM ---BTW i'm still waiting on some sort of perverted justification for the fact that the Bush Administration is paying people off to say good things about their policies. Fuck arguing about NCLB, thats another thread. Altho maybe some of you will surprise me and actual admit this was blatantly wrong.
--- End quote ---
they pay millions of dollars to run commercials bashing the other person running for president...what's wrong with them getting a well known person to say something good...the person is getting paid if he accepts....it's called a fucking job.....they can pay me that much and i'll give positive reviews for gigli, glitter and crossroads and say those were the best movies i've ever seen
--- End quote ---
Yes, and they pay for political ccommercials with their own money. This was the Bush administration using your taxpayer money, to pay people off, to say good things about their policies.
Which brings up another question. If their policies are obviously good, why do they need to pay people off to say good things about them? Shouldn't this guy have wanted to say the good things about NCLB on his own? Not only that, but Williams is a syndicated personality. He already has a job and recieves a pay check for discussing these types of issues. Why did he need extra compensation to talk about NCLB in a positive manner?
--- End quote ---
anna nicole smith has 89 million dollars and she does trim spa commercials...shaq has a multi million dollar contract and does icy hot commercials, carrot top has those 1 800 collect commercials... fact is, noboy promotes something for free on commercials..i thought this was common sense
--- End quote ---
He wasn't promoting these things on commercials. And he does get paid, he gets paid for writing his columns from the company he works for. The issue is that he got paid extra to write good things about Bush. You honestly don't there is an issue with the government paying off journalists to say good things about them?
We're not talking about Anna Nicole Smith appearing in an advertisement. We're talking about a journalist being given extra money on top of his normal pay check, specifically to say good things about the Bush Administration. His job is to comment on the news and give his opinion. That is what he is already paid for. If he actually liked NCLB he should have said so.
On top of that. Anna Nicole Smith is paid for by a private corporation, and even though your analogy doesn't relate. I will remind you that this guy was paid for with TAX PAYER money. We're paying taxes to have journalists paid off? Its one thign when Bush runs his campaign and spends money on false ads. He is using his own money to run those ads. This was your money, being used to pay off a journalists to say good thigns about Bush, and it was done in secret.
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of course he's being paid with tax payer money..."no child left behind" isn't a product, therefore it doesn't recieve money to be allotted to commercials
and anyways movies always pay reviewers to say something nice about their movies so this is pretty much the same
you shouldn't complain how your tax payer money gets spent cause there's worse things they could be spending it on... for a year and 1/2 i was getting paid $400 a week on unemployment for doing shit...now i get paid $400 a week to attend college, on top of that tax payer money bought paid for my tuition, tax payer money bought me $600 worth of new uniforms when i had to pay for them last time, tax payer money just paid me $375 this weekend to attend cpr training, go to the dentist for free and get numerous shots for free, plus pay for our catering for both of those days
lastly, it wasn't done in secret, if it was done in secret you would have never found out about it
Ant:
It was done in secret. It was going on for a whole year until he got caught. Let's go back to the first post where I quote Jonah Goldberg, the current editor of the National Review.
Jonah Goldberg: "I think Armstrong Williams should give the money back. I think he should probably be ashamed of himself for taking it. I think the White House really screwed up ... all I can say is that if Bill Clinton had gotten caught giving Joe Conason a quarter of a million dollars to be flogging their policies, guys like me would have smoke coming out of our ears, and The Right would go crazy."
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The National Review is a partisan republican magazine. It was founded by William F. Buckley. It's not just democrats that think this is ridiculous; even highly partisan republicans can admit this is an absolutely inappriopriate practice.
Anyways, for your reading pleasure, a link to the National Review Online.
http://www.nationalreview.com/
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