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Eminem is the most over-rated producer in hip-hop right now
Shallow:
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--- Quote from: Shallow on January 19, 2005, 04:22:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: Suga Foot on January 19, 2005, 03:53:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on January 19, 2005, 08:34:50 AM ---He should just steal old melodies and riffs from the 70s like every other hip hop producer does and all of a sudden people will think he's gotten better. Explain to me why Dre stealing a top notch bass line and a riff, and having his musicians re-record it, makes him more talented than Eminem working with his musicians to create a sub par bass line and riff. It's either Em's crappy talent or Dre's no talent. Either one is fine with me. When I want to listen to good instrumentals I'll pop in some Bach, or Jimmy Page if I'm in a raw mood.
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why re-invent the wheel? :P
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I'm not quite following you here. I said Em should just resort to talentless methods of "creating" music instead of trying to compose himself.
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Say what you want, but it all boils down to whether the beat is dope or not. Dre is dependable and Em ain't. You can argue about talent, but as a comsumer, I could care less.
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Who has a problem with it? Not me. I can claim it takes very little musical talent to steal and loop and still like it. I just said Em should just take like Dre does thus making his instrumentals better, because it's a real musician composing them. Em is not a real musician, he just pretends to be. Dre isn't either, but he knows that and decides to buy from real musicians. People just give him too much credit as far as a creator. He's got a good ear. Maybe if Em took like Dre did then Em's beats would greatly improve. I'm not putting down Dre. I just don't consider him a musical talent, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't either. He's a great producer, but a shitty composer.
Sikotic™:
--- Quote from: Shallow on January 19, 2005, 05:32:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: -Sikotic- on January 19, 2005, 04:27:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on January 19, 2005, 04:22:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: Suga Foot on January 19, 2005, 03:53:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on January 19, 2005, 08:34:50 AM ---He should just steal old melodies and riffs from the 70s like every other hip hop producer does and all of a sudden people will think he's gotten better. Explain to me why Dre stealing a top notch bass line and a riff, and having his musicians re-record it, makes him more talented than Eminem working with his musicians to create a sub par bass line and riff. It's either Em's crappy talent or Dre's no talent. Either one is fine with me. When I want to listen to good instrumentals I'll pop in some Bach, or Jimmy Page if I'm in a raw mood.
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why re-invent the wheel? :P
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I'm not quite following you here. I said Em should just resort to talentless methods of "creating" music instead of trying to compose himself.
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Say what you want, but it all boils down to whether the beat is dope or not. Dre is dependable and Em ain't. You can argue about talent, but as a comsumer, I could care less.
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Who has a problem with it? Not me. I can claim it takes very little musical talent to steal and loop and still like it. I just said Em should just take like Dre does thus making his instrumentals better, because it's a real musician composing them. Em is not a real musician, he just pretends to be. Dre isn't either, but he knows that and decides to buy from real musicians. People just give him too much credit as far as a creator. He's got a good ear. Maybe if Em took like Dre did then Em's beats would greatly improve. I'm not putting down Dre. I just don't consider him a musical talent, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't either. He's a great producer, but a shitty composer.
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My Bad, I feel what your sayin.
Shallow:
^^^^^^^^^^^^
No worries. I can see why you'd think I was insulting Dre.
Don Jacob:
i find it funny....no wait commical how people here say eminem is a horrible producer yet LOOOOOVE daz and battlecat. i ain't saying eminem is dr. dre or nothing but he's not even a fifth as bad as y'all make him out to be....some of y'all need to take up an instrument or a music class
smartass:
--- Quote from: BIGjakeDOGGYdogg on January 20, 2005, 02:18:47 AM ---i find it funny....no wait commical how people here say eminem is a horrible producer yet LOOOOOVE daz and battlecat. i ain't saying eminem is dr. dre or nothing but he's not even a fifth as bad as y'all make him out to be....some of y'all need to take up an instrument or a music class
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dont compare eminem to daz ever again, you fucking clown.
dogg food and retaliation revenge and get back>eminems shitty repetitive same snare and bass beats
shit, rockwilder has the same repetitive style and even his production is better than eminem.
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