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Eminem is the most over-rated producer in hip-hop right now
soopadoopaflykid:
Em is like another lil jon but I think lil jon still makes better records than Em
LyRiCaL_G:
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--- Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on January 25, 2005, 09:50:38 AM ---everyone knows he woulnt be sellin half as much if he was black
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And every black artist that breaks 3 platinum wouldn't sell 1/3 of what they sold if they didn't appeal to whites. The is Eminem hbottom line as talent and an ability to sell. It's not just because he's white. If that were the case then Bubba Sparks would be 8 platinum. Vanilla Ice would have kept going after one album. Dilated would be known outside the hip hop underground. 3rd Bass would be as remembered as the Beasties. Well Bubba never went 8 platinum or anywhere close to it. Vanilla Ice was a one hit wonder. Dilated is unknown to the masses. And 3rd Bass is forgotten about. Explain why.
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lol u gotta get off ems nuts, i didnt say whiteboy aint got talent, what you readin?......i said he woudltn have even sold half if he was black.....its fact........dre probably would have never signed him and niggaz would be sayin "how come cats like eminem cant sell n 50 can?" but cuz he white........he sellin more than anyone.......he got talent no doubt.....but its cuz his white he sellin more than anyone......i could say loads of shit to explain how thats true but aint no point, anyone with half a brain knows....he got skills....
anyway imma bump coon picnic,haha
pz
Shallow:
--- Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on January 28, 2005, 04:49:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on January 25, 2005, 11:07:06 AM ---
--- Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on January 25, 2005, 09:50:38 AM ---everyone knows he woulnt be sellin half as much if he was black
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And every black artist that breaks 3 platinum wouldn't sell 1/3 of what they sold if they didn't appeal to whites. The is Eminem hbottom line as talent and an ability to sell. It's not just because he's white. If that were the case then Bubba Sparks would be 8 platinum. Vanilla Ice would have kept going after one album. Dilated would be known outside the hip hop underground. 3rd Bass would be as remembered as the Beasties. Well Bubba never went 8 platinum or anywhere close to it. Vanilla Ice was a one hit wonder. Dilated is unknown to the masses. And 3rd Bass is forgotten about. Explain why.
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lol u gotta get off ems nuts, i didnt say whiteboy aint got talent, what you readin?......i said he woudltn have even sold half if he was black.....its fact........dre probably would have never signed him and niggaz would be sayin "how come cats like eminem cant sell n 50 can?" but cuz he white........he sellin more than anyone.......he got talent no doubt.....but its cuz his white he sellin more than anyone......i could say loads of shit to explain how thats true but aint no point, anyone with half a brain knows....he got skills....
anyway imma bump coon picnic,haha
pz
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I agreed that his connection with white kids is why he sells. All I wanted to point out was that is the same reason Nelly, 50, and Jay Z in 98 sold records. They connected with white kids and broke 5 platinum. I only mentioned the other white acts because I wanted to show it was more than skill or colour that sells records. It's a connection with the group that buys the albums, and in the case of hip hop (and just about any other genre) it's white teenagers. Shaniah Twain is a notable exception. She's went diamond three times in a row now and her fan base consists more of older women.
Don Jacob:
--- Quote from: smartass on January 23, 2005, 11:12:03 AM ---
--- Quote from: BIGjakeDOGGYdogg on January 20, 2005, 09:49:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: smartass on January 20, 2005, 10:28:25 AM ---
--- Quote from: BIGjakeDOGGYdogg on January 20, 2005, 02:18:47 AM ---i find it funny....no wait commical how people here say eminem is a horrible producer yet LOOOOOVE daz and battlecat. i ain't saying eminem is dr. dre or nothing but he's not even a fifth as bad as y'all make him out to be....some of y'all need to take up an instrument or a music class
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dont compare eminem to daz ever again, you fucking clown.
dogg food and retaliation revenge and get back>eminems shitty repetitive same snare and bass beats
shit, rockwilder has the same repetitive style and even his production is better than eminem.
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watch out this guy knows REAL music....rockwilder and daz dillinger,lol
dude c'mon i ain't saying em is the best but he's certainly ALOT better musically than some of y'all heros
lose yourself>daz/rockwilders' whole career
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the ramblings of a defeated homosexual. this thread is about production, you blind dickrider.
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^ a wise man once said "if you have to make personal attacks on someone during a disagreement or argument....you lost the argument"
i don't even really like eminem all that much BUT i'll definately give him my props.............when you learn to analyze music you learn to seperate personal bias from the observed quality, learn some musical theory then come back and talk shit about eminem's production style. Until then you're just as foolish as some one saying the beatles suck.
I`m Wayne Brady bitch!:
Don`t make a fool of yourself, you don`t got to have musical theory to know good music. The most important thing about music is melody. Without a good melody you don`t even have a fucking song! Allmost all Eminem melody`s sound the same. The same boring, messy, cheesy, depressed shit over and over again. That`s the main reason why he sucks. I could get into many other things like the drum programing, producing and executing the track, but it`s no point anyway becouse I honestly think people are deaf to his music, and in love with his image.
By the way Jake, I`m studying music-production at a multimedia school, so by your rules I can talk as much shit as I want about his production ;D 8)
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