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Iraqi elections........will they be a success?
Thirteen:
--- Quote from: *Jamal* on January 25, 2005, 01:10:05 AM ---
--- Quote from: Needles Kane on January 25, 2005, 12:15:59 AM ---
--- Quote from: *Jamal* on January 25, 2005, 12:09:48 AM ---Guam was attacked by the Japanese, not us. We went into Guam to fight the Japanese, not the people of Guam. You're arguing one thing, but you're giving examples that don't support your argument.
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wow that looks alot like
2. america had to attack guam to get the japanese out during WWII then had to defend Guam from japan
and before you try and get technical yes we did attack guam...i saw the shells of buildings left from after that attack, i walked the beach were i met the ex japanese slave, he showed us the pill boxes he helped make on the escarpment, the whole island has signs, plaques and statues with guam's war history on them
so what point did you have to make by repeating what i said?
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We attacked the Japanese who took over Guam... who did we attack in Iraq?
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we attacked Saddam and the people loyal to him, still not saying it's right or wrong but that's who the enemy was defined as
Thirteen:
--- Quote from: *Jamal* on January 25, 2005, 01:16:19 AM ---
--- Quote from: Needles Kane on January 25, 2005, 12:37:18 AM ---in iraq, if we left the place without a governent, and in the condition it was in, don't you think long time enemy iran might have taken some interest in iraqi land? and i know you've read about the looting that took place in iraq right after the war...iraqi people raiding palaces, burning down stores, etc....
the us government is training iraqi people to become police officers and starting up a military so the US will no longer have to defend iraq...this is even one of the goals that the puppet president has stated he wanted to achieve...have the US stabilize iraq so they can get out.
there's my point of the argument, you can call me retarded, moron...anything else but there's my point told like a man
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Nah, I respect your view, but I disagree with it. Anyways, what I quoted here... I agree with that, it's our duty now to stabilize Iraq, BUT you can't claim that our mission as a whole is one of "DEFENSE" as you like to call it. Reconstruction and things of that sort are part of our DUTY... "You break it, you buy it". Had Iraq attacked the U.S., and we went over and fucked them up, then NO, it wouldn't be our duty to reconstruct their country, they asked for it; however, that's not the case. We just went over there and blew the place up for no justifiable reason, and now it's our duty to fix what we broke. You can't claim however that we're there to DEFEND the Iraqis, we're there now because certain people are making $$$.
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yeah i know contractors are making a killing over there, instead of enlisting the aid of iraqi companies, the US outsourced alot of the contracts back to the US to line some pockets but that's the civilian part. the military is defending ports, ammo dumps and utility buildings along with hospitals and other municiple buildings. plus training iraqi military and law enforcement to take over those duties. my cousin was there in the Sunni triangle and he said right after they'd get done attacking a palace during the war and they were heading away... all hell would break out on the streets, looting, vandalizm, arson...totally getting rid of iraqs government, wasn't the smartest thing to do because that's the main reason we're stuck there
*Jamal*:
--- Quote from: Needles Kane on January 25, 2005, 11:34:28 AM ---we attacked Saddam and the people loyal to him, still not saying it's right or wrong but that's who the enemy was defined as
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Saddam was the leader of Iraq. He was Iraqi. The people loyal to him were Iraqi. We attacked Iraq/Iraqis. We were defending Iraqis from Iraqis? :D So, now you see what I was getting at.
BigBDrugStores:
man someone lock this up its getting rediculous
Thirteen:
--- Quote from: *Jamal* on January 25, 2005, 01:05:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: Needles Kane on January 25, 2005, 11:34:28 AM ---we attacked Saddam and the people loyal to him, still not saying it's right or wrong but that's who the enemy was defined as
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Saddam was the leader of Iraq. He was Iraqi. The people loyal to him were Iraqi. We attacked Iraq/Iraqis. We were defending Iraqis from Iraqis? :D So, now you see what I was getting at.
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well we seperated the iraqis into two groups...and you can't say iraqis don't need defense against other iraqis during these times...almost every other day they are sitting there blowing each other up... so there are common iraqis and pissed off iraqis
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