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Israel claims Iran will have nukes in 12 months
7even:
--- Quote from: *Jamal* on February 01, 2005, 03:59:31 AM ---
--- Quote from: 7even the Mastermind on February 01, 2005, 03:20:20 AM ---
--- Quote from: *Jamal* on February 01, 2005, 03:09:34 AM ---LMAO. You consider yourself a mastermind just because your statement matches mine? If I'm being used to measure what is correct and what is wrong, then that makes me the real mastermind 8)
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Well my previous name was Harbinger and I said it way before you did.. :)
You seem to belong to the smarter ones in ToT, but then again I guess we both agree that isnt saying much.
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Yeah, but you used my quote to show "Look, I was right... even JAMAL said it, so now I'm a mastermind."
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LOOL.. no, that's just what your narcistic personality disorder ass assumes.
--- Quote from: *Jamal* on February 01, 2005, 03:56:58 AM ---You need to get off that "Me Against The World" shit... it's just the name of an album... there's no conspiracy against 7even, don't let paranoia blind you...
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=66584.0
Take your sonning like a man, or "boy" I should say.
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Right now, it is pretty much 7even vs. rest of WCC. Not vs. the world, but hey. 8)
I won't bother to comment on how I can't have been sonned cause there was nothing to son about just different opinions, and I always won't bother to dive through several pages in the ToT section to show you the 7even sonnings of Jamal, cause Im sure you remember each one of them as "The Day I found my master" - Part 1/2/3/4/5 etc. :)
Woodrow:
--- Quote from: *Jamal* on January 31, 2005, 11:18:11 PM ---Our whole country is supposedly based on the foundation of equality, but when it comes to diplomatic/economic interests, then all of a sudden those values are thrown out the window? Why is Iran not equal to Israel? Israel is in violation of more UN resolutions. Israel is pushing a group of people into genocidal consensus. Just because Iran isn't a democratic puppet state, they're not "equal"? Fuck that. Being Muslim doesn't place Iranians under Israelis.
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I said it before in this topic and I'll say it again.
There's no sense having a serious discussion with people who don't recognize the difference between pluralistic democracies and tyrannical authoritarian regimes.
Claiming that a nuclear Israel is no less a threat to the world than a nuclear Iran is about as logical as saying an armed police officer presents the same threat to society as an armed criminal.
Israel = Stable, democratic, tolerant, free society, synagogues, churches, mosques, etc., made up of Jews, Christians, Muslims. Productive, lots of Noble Prize winners, creates new technology regularly.
Iran = Islamic fascist dictatorship, not free, not tolerant, no Jews tolerated, only Islam is allowed, eyes gouged out by the state, children executed, no science created
Don Rizzle:
--- Quote from: Woodrow on February 01, 2005, 10:19:30 AM ---
--- Quote from: *Jamal* on January 31, 2005, 11:18:11 PM ---Our whole country is supposedly based on the foundation of equality, but when it comes to diplomatic/economic interests, then all of a sudden those values are thrown out the window? Why is Iran not equal to Israel? Israel is in violation of more UN resolutions. Israel is pushing a group of people into genocidal consensus. Just because Iran isn't a democratic puppet state, they're not "equal"? Fuck that. Being Muslim doesn't place Iranians under Israelis.
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I said it before in this topic and I'll say it again.
There's no sense having a serious discussion with people who don't recognize the difference between pluralistic democracies and tyrannical authoritarian regimes.
Claiming that a nuclear Israel is no less a threat to the world than a nuclear Iran is about as logical as saying an armed police officer presents the same threat to society as an armed criminal.
Israel = Stable, democratic, tolerant, free society, synagogues, churches, mosques, etc., made up of Jews, Christians, Muslims. Productive, lots of Noble Prize winners, creates new technology regularly.
Iran = Islamic fascist dictatorship, not free, not tolerant, no Jews tolerated, only Islam is allowed, eyes gouged out by the state, children executed, no science created
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would iran feal the need to have nukes if israel didn't have them?
white Boy:
^ just a post a picture.. he doesnt read what you write anyway..
Woodrow:
--- Quote from: Don Rizzle on February 01, 2005, 10:25:35 AM ---would iran feal the need to have nukes if israel didn't have them?
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Iran is simply trying to achieve parity with Israel? Why? It's not Israel's government that makes it the official line to eradication Persians. What works is what HAS been working for the past 30 years. Iran does not feel threatened by Israel. Claims on the contrary being obfuscation of their desire to possess nuclear weapons. It's an excuse, not a reason.
So, we have a conventionally stable area. There have been no conventional wars between nation-states for over 30 years and this was with Israel having the only nuclear arsenal. This is certainly proof that if Israel is NOT the aggressor in that they've held the military trump card all this time and never leveraged that into concessions or threats. Now Iran's possession of a similar aresenal addresses what inequity?
There was a balance. It's clear Iran does not desire a balance, but something else. Take a look at their rhetoric, and extrapolate how any result from that can be benign.
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