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Out of all players compared to Jordan, which do you think is the closest?
hisairness:
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--- Quote from: hisairness on February 26, 2005, 07:41:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on February 26, 2005, 07:34:15 PM ---You must be trippin man...Kobe is a great leader, if you ever watch Laker games you can see him mentoring players during timeouts and helping out the younger guys...He's like an assistant to Hamblem...It's ridiculous to say Kobe isn't a leader when all the players who came from different teams to play with Kobe are playing better this season...Chris Mihm, Chucky Atkins, Caron Butler, Tierre Brown, and a steadily improving Lamar Odom are all playing some of their best basketball with Kobe as the team leader...Remember, Cleveland has two All-Stars, so that means LeBron has another impact player on his side, while Kobe only has a potential impact player in Lamar Odom...Jordan had an All-Star in Pippen, T-Mac has an All-Star in Yao, while Kobe, though sorrounded by talent, remains the only All-Star on the Lakers...So keep that in mind, and when Lamar improves to full potential, you'll realize how dumb you sounded when you claimed Kobe wasn't a leader...And I'm faded as fuck...PeACe
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Kobe is a leader when the camera's are on. In the lockerroom, on planes, during pre-game, or anywhere that doesn't include reporters and cameras, Kobe is a bitch. Players have always said that he keeps to himself, does his own thing, doesn't include anybody, how is that a leader? Yeah, when you see a game on TV, of course he's going to give the whole "I'm a leader, I care for this team, this is my team" deal because everybody can watch him. Kobe is a somewhat intelligent individual. He watches SportsCenter, he reads newspapers, he hears what people think about him...IMO, it's all an act.
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thank you.
As for Jordan having Pippen, Pippens game was elevated because of Jordan. His game developed while playing with Jordan. Once Jordan left, Pippen wasnt shit. U can argue that Kobe doesnt have anyone with him right now, which is kinda true. Which is also why i said he wont be winning any championships unless he gets another superstar. He's selfish, face it. Anyone who pays attention can see it. Im not knocking his game, he is good. But his attitude will keep him from being anything more then he is now. And he will NEVER reach Jordans level. You saw how Jordan was able to evolve his game through the loss of some of his athletisism. You have to humble yourself in order to do that. Understand that you arent what you once were, and change. You think Kobe will humble himself when he loses his athletisism? LOL yeah right, he'll just complain and make excuses about why he's not doing well. He's a spoiled little rich kid baby, that cries when he doesnt get his way. Period.
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Good point.
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: OneHittaSpitta on February 27, 2005, 08:36:24 AM ---
--- Quote from: hisairness on February 26, 2005, 07:41:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on February 26, 2005, 07:34:15 PM ---You must be trippin man...Kobe is a great leader, if you ever watch Laker games you can see him mentoring players during timeouts and helping out the younger guys...He's like an assistant to Hamblem...It's ridiculous to say Kobe isn't a leader when all the players who came from different teams to play with Kobe are playing better this season...Chris Mihm, Chucky Atkins, Caron Butler, Tierre Brown, and a steadily improving Lamar Odom are all playing some of their best basketball with Kobe as the team leader...Remember, Cleveland has two All-Stars, so that means LeBron has another impact player on his side, while Kobe only has a potential impact player in Lamar Odom...Jordan had an All-Star in Pippen, T-Mac has an All-Star in Yao, while Kobe, though sorrounded by talent, remains the only All-Star on the Lakers...So keep that in mind, and when Lamar improves to full potential, you'll realize how dumb you sounded when you claimed Kobe wasn't a leader...And I'm faded as fuck...PeACe
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Kobe is a leader when the camera's are on. In the lockerroom, on planes, during pre-game, or anywhere that doesn't include reporters and cameras, Kobe is a bitch. Players have always said that he keeps to himself, does his own thing, doesn't include anybody, how is that a leader? Yeah, when you see a game on TV, of course he's going to give the whole "I'm a leader, I care for this team, this is my team" deal because everybody can watch him. Kobe is a somewhat intelligent individual. He watches SportsCenter, he reads newspapers, he hears what people think about him...IMO, it's all an act.
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thank you.
As for Jordan having Pippen, Pippens game was elevated because of Jordan. His game developed while playing with Jordan. Once Jordan left, Pippen wasnt shit. U can argue that Kobe doesnt have anyone with him right now, which is kinda true. Which is also why i said he wont be winning any championships unless he gets another superstar. He's selfish, face it. Anyone who pays attention can see it. Im not knocking his game, he is good. But his attitude will keep him from being anything more then he is now. And he will NEVER reach Jordans level. You saw how Jordan was able to evolve his game through the loss of some of his athletisism. You have to humble yourself in order to do that. Understand that you arent what you once were, and change. You think Kobe will humble himself when he loses his athletisism? LOL yeah right, he'll just complain and make excuses about why he's not doing well. He's a spoiled little rich kid baby, that cries when he doesnt get his way. Period.
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You guys are made haters...Ask Lamar Odom, Rudy T, Frank Hamblen, Chris Mihm, Caron Butler, Luke Walton, etc...They all praise Kobe for his help and mentoring...I don't understand how you guys can judge this guy so fucking hard when you don't even know him...You guys are the ones who watch too much SportsCenter...PeACe
OneHittaSpitta:
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on February 28, 2005, 10:35:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: OneHittaSpitta on February 27, 2005, 08:36:24 AM ---
--- Quote from: hisairness on February 26, 2005, 07:41:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on February 26, 2005, 07:34:15 PM ---You must be trippin man...Kobe is a great leader, if you ever watch Laker games you can see him mentoring players during timeouts and helping out the younger guys...He's like an assistant to Hamblem...It's ridiculous to say Kobe isn't a leader when all the players who came from different teams to play with Kobe are playing better this season...Chris Mihm, Chucky Atkins, Caron Butler, Tierre Brown, and a steadily improving Lamar Odom are all playing some of their best basketball with Kobe as the team leader...Remember, Cleveland has two All-Stars, so that means LeBron has another impact player on his side, while Kobe only has a potential impact player in Lamar Odom...Jordan had an All-Star in Pippen, T-Mac has an All-Star in Yao, while Kobe, though sorrounded by talent, remains the only All-Star on the Lakers...So keep that in mind, and when Lamar improves to full potential, you'll realize how dumb you sounded when you claimed Kobe wasn't a leader...And I'm faded as fuck...PeACe
--- End quote ---
Kobe is a leader when the camera's are on. In the lockerroom, on planes, during pre-game, or anywhere that doesn't include reporters and cameras, Kobe is a bitch. Players have always said that he keeps to himself, does his own thing, doesn't include anybody, how is that a leader? Yeah, when you see a game on TV, of course he's going to give the whole "I'm a leader, I care for this team, this is my team" deal because everybody can watch him. Kobe is a somewhat intelligent individual. He watches SportsCenter, he reads newspapers, he hears what people think about him...IMO, it's all an act.
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thank you.
As for Jordan having Pippen, Pippens game was elevated because of Jordan. His game developed while playing with Jordan. Once Jordan left, Pippen wasnt shit. U can argue that Kobe doesnt have anyone with him right now, which is kinda true. Which is also why i said he wont be winning any championships unless he gets another superstar. He's selfish, face it. Anyone who pays attention can see it. Im not knocking his game, he is good. But his attitude will keep him from being anything more then he is now. And he will NEVER reach Jordans level. You saw how Jordan was able to evolve his game through the loss of some of his athletisism. You have to humble yourself in order to do that. Understand that you arent what you once were, and change. You think Kobe will humble himself when he loses his athletisism? LOL yeah right, he'll just complain and make excuses about why he's not doing well. He's a spoiled little rich kid baby, that cries when he doesnt get his way. Period.
--- End quote ---
You guys are made haters...Ask Lamar Odom, Rudy T, Frank Hamblen, Chris Mihm, Caron Butler, Luke Walton, etc...They all praise Kobe for his help and mentoring...I don't understand how you guys can judge this guy so fucking hard when you don't even know him...You guys are the ones who watch too much SportsCenter...PeACe
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whats funny, is when the media is talking good about Kobe....you try to use them as your backbone for your argument. When he falls off in the media, and they question him....u say "you guys watch too much sportscenter" lol. Its all about opening your eyes and not being sucha "fan" that you cant see the truth. U named a buncha Lakers and Lakers front office people as ones who think Koba is sucha great help lol. As if any of them are gonna dog him out to the media! Ha....how stupid would that make their front office look.
OneHittaSpitta:
one more thing, like i said....i dont question his ability, its his attitude. He's got skills, but his attitude sucks and everyone knows that. If he got his attitude together he could maybe be the best player in the game, but right now i wouldnt even put him in the top 3 or 4.
hisairness:
The only reason Lamar Odom praises Kobe is so that he can get the ball on occassion. He knows that if he bad mouths Kobe that he will go from shooting 7 times a game to 2.
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