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Trauma, Jake, Englewood, Shallow are you going to support a US invasion of Iran?
*Jamal*:
--- Quote from: Muharram 1426 A.H. on February 23, 2005, 06:34:31 PM ---considers himself to be a very devout Mormon.
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So he fucks little kids and has slept with all his family members? That explains it...
Sikotic™:
--- Quote from: *Jamal* on February 23, 2005, 06:48:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: Muharram 1426 A.H. on February 23, 2005, 06:34:31 PM ---considers himself to be a very devout Mormon.
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So he fucks little kids and has slept with all his family members? That explains it...
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LOL
Other than that, this thread is depressing. If we do go to war with Iran, the US is gonna get fucked in the ass with no vaseline.
*Jamal*:
--- Quote from: nibs on February 23, 2005, 06:09:43 PM ---the motivation is very simple. iraq was a problem
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How was Iraq threatening our security? How is Iran threatening our security? Iraq was fucked up and had no power to do shit... there were no WMDs, which was our "reason" (excuse) to go and kill people and get some oil...
nibs:
*Jamal*:
How was Iraq threatening our security?
i didn't say iraq was threatening the u.s. security. i said iraq was a problem. if you believe that dictators with wmd are potentially a problem, then iraq was a problem in the foreseeable future. did they have wmd at the time? no. it's clear that they didn't.
iraq was weak, iraq was the low hanging fruit. saddam was easily rolled over. had saddam been left in power, iraq could have been a force within 5-10 years as the u.n. sanctions were about to be lifted. had the u.s. waited, they wouldn't be able to do anything major in that region.
because the u.s. acted when it did, iraq is now being used as a staging ground for the iran assault. if the u.s. knocks out iran and syria, there will be a power void in that region for the next 50 years. period.
How is Iran threatening our security?
iran is a problem. this is about shifting the balance of world power, or maintaining the balance of world power. a nuclear iran would upset that balance. iran does not represent an immediate threat. iraq didn't represent an immediate threat. this is more shaping the global balance for the next 50 years.
there were no WMDs, which was our "reason" (excuse)
exactly. you can't be honest with the american public as they will say no. but if you trump up a threat, alot of people will go along.
to go and kill people
no. there was an agenda much broader than simple murder. it's about shaping the balance of power.
and get some oil...
not just oil. reconstruction costs. the military is privatized. these people make billions of defense contracts on everything from weapons systems to delivering the mail and serving food to the troops. war is a huge cash cow.
*Jamal*:
--- Quote from: nibs on February 23, 2005, 07:23:24 PM --- if the u.s. knocks out iran and syria, there will be a power void in that region for the next 50 years. period.
iran is a problem. this is about shifting the balance of world power, or maintaining the balance of world power.
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Ok, so you admit that the U.S. invaded on reasons based on lies. You also admit that the great amount of money to be made by certain people played a role. That's cool.
You say there will be a power void in that region. That's only half of it. Another reason is to solidify Israel's power and control of the region, plain and simple. As long as a country benefits us, it's okay for them to have any kind of weapons they want. It doesn't even matter if the country is ruled by an oppressive leader/regime. You also state that it is about maintaining a balance of power. You should look into the definition of the word "balance" because in the context we're discussing, it doesn't exist. Killing people, destroying nations, and setting up puppet states isn't creating anything that will balance world power... it is taking away the little power that one side has...
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