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America cleans its human rights records and bans capital punishment 4 juveniles

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Machiavelli:
 ^Agreed.

Don Rizzle:
i'm against capitol punishment, for the most severe crimes i believe a LIFE term in prison is warranted eg serial rapists serial murders and peodifiles, if you execute someone where is the chance to punish them they won't feel remorse after, they've just been given an easy way out. the other reason i'm against the death penalty is there is no rewinding the clock if you've sentenced an innocent man to death the is no undoing of that. for others i believe a regime of punishment (not brutality and torture but equally not a pussy ass system where it becomes like a hotel) and rehibilitation is the key, but the whole american penal system is fucked up anyway it all seems to be punishment and no rehibilitation so no wonder you expect all convicts to go out an do the same thing over.

has anyone been watching the torture season on channel 4? i was truely disgusted about not only the regime in guantamino bay and in american prisons...

basically in guantamino the regime is so fuck up your not going to get any information out of people but push them down 1 of 2 roads insanity or suicide. they did a mild 48 hour mock of the techniques used in guantamino by ex american interrigators, there were about 6 volunteers one man had to leave after 8 hours because the doctor said it wasn't safe for him to continue, another quit after he couldn't take it any more (these were all volunteers determined to stick it out to the end).

prisons in america not quite as bad but can be very brutal seeing people getting their scin burnt off by hugely excessives amounts of pepper spray being used so much so it effected people on other wards, brutal beatings and general heavy handedness, excessive restraints, encouraging gang fights etc. and the green wall which protects the prison gaurds and targets whistle blowers

Sikotic™:
Whether you agree with capital punishment or not is a different story. The fact of the matter is, capital punishment is instituted for those who commit terrible crimes. That's not changing any time soon. The issue at hand is the exclusion of minors. As long as capital punishment is allowed (and I have my beefs with cap. punishment, but that's for another day) I think minors should be subject to it as well if the crime fits and they have been proven without a shadow of a doubt to commit the crime.

Rampant:
agreed^

btw nice sig  :)

mauzip:

--- Quote from: Jome on March 02, 2005, 03:38:40 PM ---^^ And that's done by executing them, maybe that'll teach them.
America is considered a 3rd world country when it comes to death penalty, executing juvenile delinquents and mentally handicapped people is disgusting, imo.


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I think it's strange America is the only Western country that has the death penalty. A recent poll in The Netherlands showed that 63% of all Dutch think we should reintroduce the death penalty again. And yes, I'm one of them.

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