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America cleans its human rights records and bans capital punishment 4 juveniles

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Jome:
Don Rizzle is right, teenagers doesn't have the developed mind that a older person have.
My mom works with troubled kids, drug-addicts, criminals, mentally handicapped youngsters, abused kids ->> leads into drug-use, violence, misc. crimes, in general juvenile delinquent kids who doesn't fit into the A4 society, and if there's one thing these kids need, it's a new chance to stand on their own.
Most of them make it out the shithole one day..

And of course they should be locked up for life if they go on a killing spree, but that's rather rare.....

Trauma-san:

--- Quote from: Jome on March 04, 2005, 01:54:55 PM ---Don Rizzle is right, teenagers doesn't have the developed mind that a older person have.
My mom works with troubled kids, drug-addicts, criminals, mentally handicapped youngsters, abused kids ->> leads into drug-use, violence, misc. crimes, in general juvenile delinquent kids who doesn't fit into the A4 society, and if there's one thing these kids need, it's a new chance to stand on their own.
Most of them make it out the shithole one day..

And of course they should be locked up for life if they go on a killing spree, but that's rather rare.....


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... well if they don't have a developed mind, then why has the supreme court decided that they DO have a developed mind, and should be able to have an abortion without parental consent? Same thing. 

Trauma-san:

--- Quote from: Don Rizzle on March 03, 2005, 10:39:27 AM ---What astonishes me about you trauma is that you approve of indescriminate bombings of innocent civilians on little or no intelligence in places like Iraq and view those commiting atrocities as heros but if it someone does something bad in america they should get the chair. its a huge contradiction if you ask me, and just shows how fucked up american values truely are.

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It's a WAR.  If we were at War with you, I would want you, your mother, and all your brothers and sisters dead.  Perhaps you should wake up, and look at the bloody past of YOUR country, and see exactly where you're standing today, because from my viewpoint, you're standing in thousands of years of blood, and telling me how horrible I am. Face it.  We're ALL that way.  The entire world is the result of wars, horrible wars where children & women & men alike were killed, unfairly.  Why? Greed, Lust, Money, Power.  YOUR Country did that.  So did mine.

Jome:

--- Quote from: Trauma on March 04, 2005, 06:15:44 PM ---... well if they don't have a developed mind, then why has the supreme court decided that they DO have a developed mind, and should be able to have an abortion without parental consent? Same thing. 
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The same supreme court allowed execution of the same kids until recently.
So I guess you mean they're wrong for not allowing that now.. ??
Since they can make their own decisions on abort, they should also face the same consequences in court as adults ??

Don Rizzle:

--- Quote from: Trauma on March 04, 2005, 06:19:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: Don Rizzle on March 03, 2005, 10:39:27 AM ---What astonishes me about you trauma is that you approve of indescriminate bombings of innocent civilians on little or no intelligence in places like Iraq and view those commiting atrocities as heros but if it someone does something bad in america they should get the chair. its a huge contradiction if you ask me, and just shows how fucked up american values truely are.

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It's a WAR.  If we were at War with you, I would want you, your mother, and all your brothers and sisters dead.  Perhaps you should wake up, and look at the bloody past of YOUR country, and see exactly where you're standing today, because from my viewpoint, you're standing in thousands of years of blood, and telling me how horrible I am. Face it.  We're ALL that way.  The entire world is the result of wars, horrible wars where children & women & men alike were killed, unfairly.  Why? Greed, Lust, Money, Power.  YOUR Country did that.  So did mine.

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my country does have blood on its hands and i have always denounced the bad things it has done but also highlighed its positives like stamping out the slave trade in africa using our naval might, in any case this has nothing to do with me or the rest of the country because none of us had any influence on those actions, however we do in the actions of our government today. The fact is if you listen to your president he talks about liberating iraqi's from the bath'ist regime, but like in all recent american wars civillian casulties have been unecessarily high with one of the main causes being american heavy handedness and of particular concern indescriminant targeting. And i feel confort in the fact that British troups have done a much better job in Iraq and they have secured relative calm in the south and have been working with communities reubuilding infrastructure etc. i'm sure any Iraqi would agree british troups have upheld a much better conduct during operations in Iraq.

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