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*Jamal*:
What do some of the bigots on here say all the time?... Oh yea... "consequence of war", "shit happens", "it's okay, it's well worth it"...

acbaylove:

--- Quote from: Max vs Kain on March 04, 2005, 09:04:15 PM ---Haha she was freed not rescued, what were they running from again ? lol  ;D
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Ok, freed. I'm not english. They were running from the terrorists, whatchu think? That area wasnt safe.

acbaylove:

--- Quote from: Needles Kane on March 04, 2005, 08:30:05 PM ---Rules Of Engagement say that if there is a threat or practice that is dangerous to the safety of others,  you have a number of choices depending on the situation... of the situation lets you warn them person...then you get to warn them first...with warning shots, lights hand signals....

if the threat persiststhen you are allowed the use of deadly force

vehicles in iraq are considered a threat because everyone knows they can be made into bombs... there's even a chart that shows how far the blast radious will reach for each kind of vehicle...

anyways, the shots fired after the vehicle stopped falls under the part that says you do not have to cease fire until you know for sure the threat has been stopped... so just because a vehicle stops means that everything is going to be ok...

so far the article justifies the kind of force used...of course somethings might not be true but for now, it's the italians fault for being careless in a high security area
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You know what's strange? That it wasnt a common car, or a camion. It was 3 vehicles of Italian Army. And it all happened in 10 seconds. From the article it looks like it happened in 10 minutes! Naw. It was in 10 seconds. They were running, trying to find the way to go to the Airport. It was dark, somebody shooted at them. They probably said: "Damn, continue! It's a trap", and 10 seconds later it was all done. Now i'm not saying Americans intentionally wanted to kill them. It's a mistake. Shit happens, and everything. But still it's hard to accept it.

*Jamal*:

--- Quote from: Antonio on March 05, 2005, 01:34:50 AM ---But still it's hard to accept it.

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LOL. 1 dead Italian is hard to accept, but thousands of Iraqis being killed is okay.... 

acbaylove:

--- Quote from: *Jamal* on March 05, 2005, 01:40:58 AM ---
--- Quote from: Antonio on March 05, 2005, 01:34:50 AM ---But still it's hard to accept it.
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LOL. 1 dead Italian is hard to accept, but thousands of Iraqis being killed is okay....
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I never said it, so why are you laughing at it? The death of a man who saved another woman's life is never right. No matter if he is a terrorist, a civil, an italian, a hero, a criminal or an american; black, white or yellow. Italians didnt fight this war, you should have known this. Italians never killed a single Iraqi guy. But we've lost about 30 human lifes in Iraq, trying to help them. Doctors, journalists, Italian Police, Diplomats. And this is just another victim. They freed a journalist (leftwing anti-war, so now you know) who thanked Iraqi for her treatment while she was kidnapped as soon as she returned in Italy, this morning, and the second thing she said was to get out of Iraq cause Iraqi just want to be free from occupying forces. A strong political message against the war and pro-Iraqi. They didnt shot a Marine, man! They didnt shot people who fought the war against Iraqi. It was a Marine who shot them civils. They werent strapped, they were diplomats and members of SISME, like i said (our 007). And it's fucked up no matter from which perspective you see it. I understand you are sad about all the deaths of innocents.. well.. this one was just another innocent killed. There's nothing to laugh.

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