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"When We Were Kings" is the real Muhammad Ali movie

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Just Another Sunny day in California:
Ali is the man, greatest boxer of all time hands down.  i needa check this movie out

Trauma-san:
Don King is a genius.  Unfortunately, he's the mad scientist type.  He's about the biggest scumbag walking the face of the earth.  I'll tell you all you need to know about Don King in one little story.


When King was young, just getting into starting his career and things (and don't be fooled; his career isn't boxing promotion, his career is making money however he can make it)... a guy borrowed 50 bucks from him.  The guy never paid King back, after a few attempts to collect the money, King bumped into the guy in a bar with some of his thugs.  King beat him to the ground, and was stomping the guy in the face, the guy said "O.K., O.K., I'll pay you the money" and King kept stomping on him, until he killed him.  The last words the guy ever said were "I'll pay you the money".  King went to jail for about 3 years, but the judge had amazingly reduced the sentence from Murder to Manslaughter.  Everybody assumes he was paid off.

He killed another man one time, too, who was trying to rob him, but I guess you can't totally blame him for that.  He's long been known to take advantage of all of his fighters, as well, everybody knows he bilked Tyson out of everything he earned, and today Mike Tyson's bankrupt.  Who knows how much money he stole over the years from Ali. 

Don King's one of those guys that's fun to watch on t.v., and maybe even get a little excited when you see him somewhere... I guess it's even alright to consider him 'cool' because of his incredible (really, above nearly everyone) amount of charisma... he's a modern day P.T. Barnum... but in the end, he's an evil man who I wouldn't put above anything.  He'd kill his own mother if the insurance policy was high enough. 

Shallow:
I always thought a few of Ali's fights were fixed to keep him strong and help the boxing industry make money. That guy grabbed on to his opponent so often with out any penalty it was disgusting to watch. When he fought Chuvallo and was beaten so bad he had to go into an emergency room after the fight while Chuvallo went out dancing with his wife, it was rigged judges. When he fought Frazier and he couldn't even stand for the last round and would have lost buy Frazier's corner through in the towel, it was probably fixed. When he beat Foreman, I always thought it was either a payout to George or a doping of the water. Never in boxing history do you get such an extreme upset with out a rematch, unless the boxer goes to Jail like Tyson did. Foreman and Ali was in 1974. Foreman boxed until '77. Why in 3 years would he not get a rematch? Because I think he was bad for business and tyhe promoters knew. Boxing has always been a dirty business. All you need is the ability to draw money and the right people backing you and you'll be a champion. It's not too different than pro wrestling in the 40s and 50s. Ali was good for buiness, George wasn't. Not until he came back as the charasmatic old timer in the late 80s.

Personally, I'm not sure how many people could beat a mid 90s Lennox Lewis. I'd bet my life that he'd destroy Ali in any kind of fight.

Nima - Dubcnn.com:
Ken Norton was the guy who broke Ali's jaw in a fight.

Ali is the GOAT though.. It's funny, my dad used to tell me about him all the time, my parents would have fights because my mom hates violent sports.

My dad had to wait till I was 8 (i think) till he was allowd to show me all the fights. He had like 10 VHS tapes full of fights and all he sat down with me a couple weekends in a row and told me the history of boxing. Ali was a HERO in Iran. My entire family was crying when Joe Frazier beat him.

Trauma-san:

--- Quote from: Shallow on March 17, 2005, 09:00:25 AM ---I always thought a few of Ali's fights were fixed to keep him strong and help the boxing industry make money. That guy grabbed on to his opponent so often with out any penalty it was disgusting to watch. When he fought Chuvallo and was beaten so bad he had to go into an emergency room after the fight while Chuvallo went out dancing with his wife, it was rigged judges. When he fought Frazier and he couldn't even stand for the last round and would have lost buy Frazier's corner through in the towel, it was probably fixed. When he beat Foreman, I always thought it was either a payout to George or a doping of the water. Never in boxing history do you get such an extreme upset with out a rematch, unless the boxer goes to Jail like Tyson did. Foreman and Ali was in 1974. Foreman boxed until '77. Why in 3 years would he not get a rematch? Because I think he was bad for business and tyhe promoters knew. Boxing has always been a dirty business. All you need is the ability to draw money and the right people backing you and you'll be a champion. It's not too different than pro wrestling in the 40s and 50s. Ali was good for buiness, George wasn't. Not until he came back as the charasmatic old timer in the late 80s.

Personally, I'm not sure how many people could beat a mid 90s Lennox Lewis. I'd bet my life that he'd destroy Ali in any kind of fight.



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LOL @ your entire post.  (like usual)

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