Author Topic: Did Snoop Ghostwrite for Da Brat? (Read 764 times)

nibs · « **Reply #30 on:** March 15, 2005, 08:15:12 PM »

bigg vegaz
there were a gang of tracks off 2001 that had a funky ass vibe to them... light speed was one of ' em
lets get high was another one
hoes a housewife

"funky"

sure. but "funky" is a huge umbrella. everythang "funky" ain't "g-funk".

most of funkadelic's shit (other than knee deep) was rock; so i'm a little skeptical of that funky label.

let's look at "let's get high":

this is what dj quik did with that sample: break bread

this is what cold 187um did with the same sample: givin it up

dre's variant is very far from that classic g-funk sound. it's a very east coast monotonous sound. i'd go so far as to say that nothing on 2001 approaches shit like even "been there, done that" or "eastcoast west coast killers" on the g-funk scale (and those were deritatives at best). dre doesn't do it anymore. dre can't do it anymore.

and i'd have singled out "some l.a. niggaz" over those tracks which, while funky, have a more old school, rough, east coast, 70's dirty sound to them and not a modern g-funk sound.

and in terms of dupri sounding like warren g over quik, i think it really depends on which track. dupri is less musical than quik, less instruments, less variation in sounds, so that's something he shares with warren g.

Sir Petey · « **Reply #31 on:** March 15, 2005, 08:38:55 PM »

If dupri was to have been influenced by another producer from the deathrow era one could argue that daz himself was an influence and you can hear it on kriss kross young rich and dangerous album . Id like to think that what dre tried to do was take g funk to the next level and give it a more east coastish appeal so that it would be universal...but quiks last album and warren G's last album werent all that g funkish
either, if your talking about the claptracks and the warm bass lines and the whiney synths and whatnot... as a matter of fact the last time Id even heard production like that was on Daz last album....

nibs · « **Reply #32 on:** March 19, 2005, 12:33:59 PM »

yeah, quik tried to make his shit east coastish too. but i'd say dre abandoned g-funk completely.

daz did do some good things on the dpg lp, and cat is still doing good things as well.

Sir Petey · « **Reply #33 on:** March 19, 2005, 01:26:40 PM »

Quote from: nibs on March 19, 2005, 12:33:59 PM

yeah, quik tried to make his shit east coastish too. but i'd say dre abandoned g-funk completely.

daz did do some good things on the dpg lp, and cat is still doing good things as well.

yup...battlecat knows not to abandon his signature sound...in music everything comes full circle eventually. I can see the west is starting to get its " legs " back...its only a matter of time before the whole retro thing starts kicking in and hopefully G funk will be reborn...
and I believe that dre did abandon G funk because the whole industry pretty much rapped that sound that him and deathrow invented so he did what all credible musicians do and thats reinvent themselves...you notice how when quik and dre got down with each other, how quik started dropping eastcoast sounding tracks?...I wasnt feeling that shit at all...do you man....stick to what works for you.

nibs · « **Reply #34 on:** March 19, 2005, 01:42:45 PM »

bigg vegaz:
yup...battlecat knows not to abandon his signature sound...in music everything comes full circle eventually

quik has always gotten love from his fans but he's never really gotten the sales to back it up, certainly not along the levels of dre; so i sort of understood why he tried to mix it up on an album and see if he could broaden his appeal.

the thing i don't get is back in 2000 or so when everyone was saying "snoop can't do shit without dre", it was battlecat and g-funk "g'd up" that brought him back to the forefront. "we can freak it" was kurupt's biggest single. (although girls all pause was big). i don't understand why snoop and kurupt moved away from what works for them.

Sir Petey · « **Reply #35 on:** March 19, 2005, 02:12:18 PM »

Quote from: nibs on March 19, 2005, 01:42:45 PM

bigg vegaz:
yup...battlecat knows not to abandon his signature sound...in music everything comes full circle eventually

quik has always gotten love from his fans but he's never really gotten the sales to back it up, certainly not along the levels of dre; so i sort of understood why he tried to mix it up on an album and see if he could broaden his appeal.

the thing i don't get is back in 2000 or so when everyone was saying "snoop can't do shit without dre", it was battlecat and g-funk "g'd up" that brought him back to the forefront. "we can freak it" was kurupt's biggest single. (although girls all pause was big). i don't understand why snoop and kurupt moved away from what works for them.

thats an astute observation and I agree...battlecat is partialy responsible for the west's little run in 1999 - 2001... his work with snoop and the eastsiders speak for itself...battlecat was even one of aftermaths "inhouse" producers for a quick second he had a short contract with them to produce a certain amount of beats and was supposed to over see hittmans album...DJ Quik
has went on record to say battlecat gave quik some play on how to program his drum tracks in his earlier days , but I think that battlecat should have expanded to work with a few east coast cats or southern cats to get his name out there a little bit...because battlecat is possibly the most underrated out of ALL the producers....including warren G in my opinion....