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There is some good in it, but alcohol should be avoided completely
ZILLA THA GOODFELLA:
See, now you're getting a lil too personal and gone force me to threat your punk ass white boy, but I know better. Since you're so interested to investigate me, point out 1 thing fake about me! There's nothing fake that runs in my blood, I have nothing to hide. I welcome anyone on here that wants to come out to my side of the world, just like I welcomed big homie SGV. This thread is great though, all eyes on zilla right now. I like this.
Listen.. You say I forget where I came from but I don't even understand what that means. I'm Middle Eastern, period. I ain't FROM the Middle East. You see the words on the shirt in my avatar, THAT'S where I'm from and am willing to die for. Why? cuzz that's all I've known my whole life. Some people want the whole world, but I'm happy with the boulevard. That is something you will never understand because you're not a product of anywhere, the only reason you became a Muslim was to find an identity because you were lost. You had nothing to stand for before Islam. And hey, it's all good. Whatever works, we strive in this life to find happiness, that's all that matters. But when you enter the fanatic stage and try to preach to people who have a whole different mind-state and view on life, that's when I'ma come in and ridicule your lame ass. That is not how you do it, you have to join a team to make a difference in the game, you can't do it from the stands. And really, what do you get out of this? 1 question you have to ask yourself is, am I really happy? Why do I stress on bullshit like this? This ain't what life is about.
And I don't love white women, where the fuc is all this coming from? I never even been with a white female. I don't even find the majority of them attractive, ask Siavash or anyone that knows me.
Don't tell me what element I represent from Iran, because I'm not a product of Iran. But I can tell you what element my mother represents, the element that fought and hustled all their life to achieve freedom and reach happiness. It wasn't easy, from the ghettos of Iran to murder capitals of the West. You don't know what the essense of our being is, you're shallow, we see the bigger picture, it isn't about any of these things you talk about. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A CULTURE CUZZIN.. but then you sit there and belittle me based on mine? How does this make sense? It doesn't. Your whole existance doesn't. Aiight, maybe I'm pushing it now, but you're as pathetic as they come. And that's all there is to it.
Doggystylin:
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Read my post again. Iran was not influenced by Islam like Saudi Arabia until 1979, I don't see why you don't understand that. Before 1979, Iran's drinking scene was similar to Europe. There were bars, nightclubs, advertisements, and yes even now if you go, there are many familys who regularly drink at home. Iran is the least islamic country there is in the middle east. Iranians hate Arabs therefore the Islam thing didn't stick to many.
So just read it again, and please admit you were wrong about the Iranian history part, don't try to change your words. Cause I already see you trying to slip out of the "alcohol has BEEN a part of the white man's culture and not the Iranians".
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Alcohol has not played a large role in Iran's history over the last 1,000 years. Yes, I agree with you, that there was a period when America and Britian installed a pro-Western dictator the Shah, from 1953-till 1979 when they kicked his puppet ass out of the country. The fact that they had an Iranian revolution and kicked his ass out is proof of what I am saying! Iranians wouldn't stand for the Shah promoting Western culture and habits inside their country. Iranians strongly rejected that and they wanted to bring back a soceity that more closely identified with Islamic values.
If Iranians loved Western culture and drinking so much they wouldn't have overthrown the Shah in 1979, and they wouldn't have allowed Khomeni to come to power. That was a popular movement inside the country.
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Wrong again, who said it was the Shah who promoted "western society" habits, how many times do I have to tell you, drinking alcohol has been a part of Iranians for thousands of years. Even when the Arabs came over to Iran and brought Islam and pretty much fucked all our women, There were only a group of real muslims. Many of the true persians fled the country and went north or east to India, those people are Zoroastrian, true full blooded persians, they were sick of the abusive muslims. But still the country wasn't dominated by Islamic culture like you think it was.
Oh and please dont even start on Khomeni and the Islamic Revolution of 1979. I can't believe your even arguing about this stuff with me. The people of Iran were not upset because of the "Western influence" of the Shah, thats just wishfull thinking on your part, thats what you hope it was about but no. The people of Iran were upset because the Shah was getting raped by the U.S. and other countries economically. The Shah was letting all of them take advantage of Iran, and the people weren't having that, so when someone comes along and is ready to knock down the Shah, the people couldnt give a fuck who or what he was. They were just ready to get rid of someone who was letting others take advantage. So the people gathered and got together because they had one goal: to take down the Shah. So lets make this short and please trust me on this stuff. I'm not even trying to be disrespectfull, I'm just sayin, leave this shit alone, talk about what you know, and don't try to make up shit and add a Islamic twist to it.
Thuglife:
gin and juice bitch
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on March 19, 2005, 01:30:55 PM ---What about weed? I know Islam forbids smoking weed, but is it treated the same as alcohol, or is there a higher level of tolerance towards alcohol in the Islamic culture because it is legal?
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Islam doesn't specifically forbid smoking weed. Islam is generally against anything that would alter your conscience, but there is no specific regulation against weed.
DAYUM:
damn Infinites wreckin on them boys....
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