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Quote from: Lincoln The Reform-A-Tory on March 17, 2005, 09:23:54 PMI definitely agree that avoision of alcohol completely is important. Honestly, I live in a college building. I never miss a class, and I'm the only one. I'm also the only one who doesn't drink. Coincidence?Yes.I never missed a class, maintained a near 4.0 GPA, and drank frequently.Is having a beer with dinner wrong? Nope. It's not the booze thats a problem, it's the individual.
I definitely agree that avoision of alcohol completely is important. Honestly, I live in a college building. I never miss a class, and I'm the only one. I'm also the only one who doesn't drink. Coincidence?
You're 100% wrong.The conditional love and wrathful punishment of Muhammad's Allah is completely opposed to the unconditional love and peace that was preached by Jesus.
It's not the booze thats a problem, it's the individual.
So your a Christian now? Maybe a girl you want to date is Christian, this must be a new thing. Let me explain to you something about Christianity. Ever heard of the old testament? Is the God of the Old Testment not also a punishing and wrathful God?
1. I don't give a shit about what this Allah dude got to say.2. Alcohol doesn't make you weak or childish, and it does not hurt your family, IF you know how much to drink, and can control it, most people can.It's like many other things in life, it's good in the right doses, but not good if you get addicted.
Iran is a sober nation, and Iranians are sober people, who have gotten by for centuries without alcohol.
Quote from: RODZILLA tha BAYlien on March 19, 2005, 02:55:52 AM^ Exactly.... You beat me to it, It just proves how foolish this guy really is with his preaching. The most famous wine in the world is from Shiraz, a historical town South of Iran. There are people in the ghettos out there who sip away still like it's water. There is nothing about Sober about my roots, you have no idea what goes down out there. The whole country has been demonized ever since the revolution. In general, there is nothing wrong with alcohol, it's the demons that come with it. If you acknowledge those demons, you will have self control and will know when to stop. And what does Americanized mean? Let's not forget who the white boy is here, and you should be proud of who you are, maybe you just don't have a real identity and enjoy bashing others about theirs. Who knows, but Americanized? I don't even understand what that means. You act like I'm not FROM America. And my environment don't hold me bac from anything, I don't know how you get that from my post. Just STFU though, you're boring me !That's why I said alcohol has not been a part of Iranian culture for centuries. If you read my origional post, I'm talking about how alcohol was flowing like a river through the street when the Qu'ran banned it 1400 years ago. Then later, Islam penetrated Persia. I'm sure there was heavy drinking in Persia before the advent of Islam.
^ Exactly.... You beat me to it, It just proves how foolish this guy really is with his preaching. The most famous wine in the world is from Shiraz, a historical town South of Iran. There are people in the ghettos out there who sip away still like it's water. There is nothing about Sober about my roots, you have no idea what goes down out there. The whole country has been demonized ever since the revolution. In general, there is nothing wrong with alcohol, it's the demons that come with it. If you acknowledge those demons, you will have self control and will know when to stop. And what does Americanized mean? Let's not forget who the white boy is here, and you should be proud of who you are, maybe you just don't have a real identity and enjoy bashing others about theirs. Who knows, but Americanized? I don't even understand what that means. You act like I'm not FROM America. And my environment don't hold me bac from anything, I don't know how you get that from my post. Just STFU though, you're boring me !
For white people, it is part of the American culture to drink alcohol and has been for centuries. That's not your history, that's not your people's history. It's clear that you've been Americanized, Westernized.
Atleast Doggy/Saivash/Sunset admits he's Americanized. Don't run from it Rod, your Americanized. Straight up. Why run from it? You love it so much. That's what your always trying to prove is how hard, and how gangsta, and how hip-hop you are. These are all American concepts that you live by. You live by African American culture, 2pac wrote the script that you try so hard to live by. But you ain't him. 2pac tried to elevate himself, infact 2pac used to read Khalil Gibran and Rumi and other Persian authors and he experimented with Sufi thought that you know nothing about. I love hip-hop, and I respect that you represent hip-hop, but when you try to pretend to be some college student/persian/gansta, nobody is believing that act. All they see is an Iranian immigrant who's been Americanized.Here's the difference between you and I. We've both changed our cultures. I've repudiated my American upbringing and replaced it with Islamic culture. You've repudiated your Persian roots, and replaced them with American culture.