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infinite...tell me about your perfect world
ZILLA THA GOODFELLA:
--- Quote from: Hip-Hop Is Dead on March 21, 2005, 04:56:04 PM ---Like bestselling author and Western psychologist James Redfield has hypothesized, this whole world is based on energy.
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FINALLY something useful coming out from you. I recommend everyone to go read about this right here.
NobodyButMe:
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--- Quote from: JTPlatnum on March 20, 2005, 02:33:48 PM ---
as for the answer to my question........
you still didn't give me your idea of a perfect world b/c, like you said, you're speaking from the 'noble 'qu'ran'.........but anyways........
in this perfect world you speak of everyone and everything worshipping allah. i want you to elaborate on this one.....i want to know what your idea of this is. i mean, some people would say that worshipping is standing there with your eyes closed and your hands and arms outstretched towards the sky. some people would say that worshipping is bowing on your knees. some people would say worshipping is anything as long as you do it with allah/god in mind. i want to know what your idea of worshipping is....what does a regular worship-filled city look like? what do the people do for work? what do the people do for worship? how much money do they make?
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Like bestselling author and Western psychologist James Redfield has hypothesized, this whole world is based on energy, the ultimate source of that energy is the Creator. See, you said my posts make you sick, so you were stealing my energy, and this boosted your energy level slightly. So I lost a little energy because I felt insulted, so I replied that you were a swine-eater, and in this I felt as if I was regaining my energy and my control over the situation. The reason you started this thread by insulting me, was because your energy level is low. The ultimate source of energy is the Creator, and his devine order is evident all throughout his creation, in nature and in humans. When you see something that is beautiful, you gain energy, when you focus on the beauty. So when we become conscious and we fall in love with the Creator and we look for evidence of the magnificence of his creation, then we will feel full of energy and we will not need to harm others, or 'steal' their energy. So, by worshipping, I mean, being conscious of your Creator in everything you do (which is the definition of Islam), and therefore your energy will be full. If you are working hard, you are working for the sake of pleasing the Creator, if you are going to the store, while you stand in line, you are reminding yourself of the greatness of the Creator, and so on, in all of our daily activities. Everything you do can be an act of worship if it is for the purpose of pleasing the Creator.
--- Quote from: JTPlatnum on March 20, 2005, 02:33:48 PM ---
in this world, if everyone is worshipping allah, i've got to assume that everyone is actually a muslim. is there any 'bad' muslims? what distinguishes the 'better muslims from the lesser muslims? i mean, who lives in the mansion? who lives in the shack? who cleans the toilets? who develops computers? is there the development of computers in this perfect world?
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As I said above, even if you are cleaning toilets, if you are doing that act for the sake of the Creator, then you will be doing it knowing that it is a good deed because you are promoting purity, and a job such as that will help you achieve humility and patience. And in a perfect world people would not want to live in mansions, they would be distributing their money to the poor, during the time of the Prophet Muhammad, him and his closest followers lived in what you would consider a 'shack'. The Prophet and the next 3 leaders that followed him, were clothes that were patched together. And this is just 1400 years ago, other world leaders were living lavishly, in palaces. After the Prophet passed away, one of his successors (after Abu Bakr) named Umar, rode into Jerusalam on a camel with his servant, him and his servant were taking turns riding the camel, they came close to the city, and the servent suggested that Umar should be riding the camel so he would look important, Umar said no, because there is nothing important about him, the only thing important is God, and the message he is carrying that nothing is worthy of worship but God (Creator/Allah). Also, in Islam, people are not permitted to pile up wealth and are religiously obligated to give a portion of their salary to the poor.
--- Quote from: JTPlatnum on March 20, 2005, 02:33:48 PM ---
this idea of a perfect world where everyone is equal and everyone is the same and does the same things does not exist to me. it can never exist. if it exists, we might as well kill off our individuality. which i don't understand why we should. god/allah made us the way we are, why should we all have to do the same thing? this would be a pretty boring world if we were all the same and had the same motivations and same ideas about everything, wouldn't it?
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Like Malcolm X said, capatalism is parasitic. Show me a capatalist, and I'll show you a bloodsucker. America is a capatalistic country. This promotes individuality to such a degree that it becomes selfishness. In other cultures and societies they pride themselves on community. They work to achieve success as communities not as individuals. They view success in terms of the success of their community and not strictly personal success. This is much more fullfilling.
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i like the energy philosophy, but honestly, i really feel like you're preaching to this forum is a way for you to gain some of that energy....i know it causes a creates a lot of heated discussions on this forum and i for one feel like you're personally attacking me without knowing a goddam thing about me or my life and/or experiences. i can't stand people that tell me what i should be doing. how the fuck could ANYBODY but myself and the people around me have any clue as to what i should be doing with my life....let alone people that have never met me, seen me, nor even talked to me in person?!?! that is what i feel you do. i feel you come in here, preaching something you heard from your church, and telling us that we all need to follow it. and i think it's bullshit. you don't know shit about me, or anybody else on this forum. and, from what i understand, you're supposed to live your life worshipping god, not telling others how to live their lives. [maybe that's christianity]
i guess this is my fault for even clicking on your topics, but i just hate the spread of what i see as bullshit propoganda. it's like those 'people' magazines, you know they're pure bullshit but you just want to see how ridiculous they can really be. i'm not trying to hurt your feelings, or piss you off, i'm trying to get you to realize that people don't want to hear it. people don't want to hear what you think is best for them. people don't want to hear what you think we should be doing. people want to live their lives. people want to claim their individuality. people DO NOT want to be told what to do. want proof? look at just about any topic you create and see the MULTITUDES of people calling it bullshit and telling you to go fuck yourself. i've lived through a lot of shit in my life, and so have you. i've seen a lot of things that you haven't seen and you've seen a lot of things that i'll never see. i've been to places you've never been and i've been in situations that no one will ever be. how are you going to pretend that you know what's best for me? because a book said so? because your preacher said so? that's not good enough for me. i guess i can eliminate this whole problem by just not clicking on your topics anymore....
once again, i'm sorry for the harsh things i called you at the start of this post, i didn't mean to hurt your feelings or disrespect you. i felt like i've been reading your topics for years and they seriously bother me with the amount of ignorance they contain. you act as though you know everything about everyone while not having even met a single one of the 5000+ people on this board. this was my backlash.
your idea of a perfect world sounds nice, but it'll never happen. we're individuals. we think on our own and we feel on our own. we do what we feel we must, not what someone else tells us. if i feel i should be worshipping god, i will worship him. if not, i won't. if i feel i should stop drinking alcohol, i will. if not, i won't.
anyways, i hope you find whatever it is you're looking for, because i sure as hell don't think you've found it. you're like a salesman that has to convince the buyer to buy his product. a good product doesn't need to be sold by a salesman, it sells itself.
King Tech Quadafi:
You faggot Englewood I know youre fuckin beggin to discredit me after the abuse youve recieved in my hands, but dont take cheap shots at me. I aint going out like that,
You dumb fuck I didnt post a link cuz it was not worth posting a link. Please explain to me how i tried to play off basic knowledge as my opinion?
My commentary was separate then the information I took. As for the second link, All I took were specific dates.
Englewood got a quick summary of Islamic spain grabbed from a random site. No mind blowing information. Just a quick summary any one who understood anything about Islamic spain will tell you. Because you were posting bullshit. You were posting lies. You have an anti Islamic agenda, and you twist and manipulate to fit that agenda. And you have proven to know NOTHING about Islamic Spain, while my crime is jackin a summary to dismiss you because you were not worth the creative juices of my brain to start flowing,
All the information Englewood gets is based on what some one else says. Not me. The shit I posted is not information I didnt know. Its basic knowledge. It was posted to show how useless u are. I dont link shit like that, because I was not proving a point, I was dismissing you. You are such a bitch Englewood, that you have stooped to this. You ate my dick for so long and it tortures you.
And that pussy, faggot Trauma, keep my fuckin name out of your mouth. Dont even suggest for a second that Tech is a pussy like you. That faggot verbal assaulta was a pussy, put that on my momma.
Woodrow:
--- Quote from: O.G. Techniec on March 21, 2005, 08:59:38 PM ---You faggot Englewood I know youre fuckin beggin to discredit me after the abuse youve recieved in my hands, but dont take cheap shots at me. I aint going out like that,
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I don't have to try and discredit you. You did a wonderful job yourself.
--- Quote from: O.G. Techniec on March 21, 2005, 08:59:38 PM ---You dumb fuck I didnt post a link cuz it was not worth posting a link. Please explain to me how i tried to play off basic knowledge as my opinion?
My commentary was separate then the information I took. As for the second link, All I took were specific dates.
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LMAO. Don't try and justify your actions. I'd say the "furthermore faggot" is proof enough to anybody that you tried to pass the writings off as your own.
--- Quote from: O.G. Techniec on March 21, 2005, 08:59:38 PM ---Englewood got a quick summary of Islamic spain grabbed from a random site. No mind blowing information. Just a quick summary any one who understood anything about Islamic spain will tell you. Because you were posting bullshit. You were posting lies. You have an anti Islamic agenda, and you twist and manipulate to fit that agenda. And you have proven to know NOTHING about Islamic Spain, while my crime is jackin a summary to dismiss you because you were not worth the creative juices of my brain to start flowing,
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How does it go from you being a fake to me posting lies? Don't try and shift the blame because you're a fuck up.
--- Quote from: O.G. Techniec on March 21, 2005, 08:59:38 PM ---All the information Englewood gets is based on what some one else says. Not me. The shit I posted is not information I didnt know. Its basic knowledge. It was posted to show how useless u are. I dont link shit like that, because I was not proving a point, I was dismissing you. You are such a bitch Englewood, that you have stooped to this. You ate my dick for so long and it tortures you.
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If it's such basic knowledge, then why weren't you able to write about it without stealing others writing? Why did you copy/paste the information? You realize you're digging yourself a bigger and bigger whole.
King Tech Quadafi:
You stupid idiot, Englewood. My own opinion was posted SEPARATELY from what was pasted. The pasted portion was a summary of Islamic Spain. It did not have words of mine mixed in there to insinuate that I wrote it. My knowledge is in my own opinions. My crime is not postin a link. So go ahead faggot, one assasination speaks for 800 years Englewood. Yes sir.
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