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Anti-American or Anti-Bush ?
Suffice:
I HATE Bush, and i generally DO NOT like conservative because they're usually narrow minded and backward in their ways. While the world is progressing, we can't just stand in our place, a lot of folks don't understand that, they don't like change. For this reason i am all FOR secession of California from the Union, because we got the only normal state on the west coast down here. That's the truth. We got all resources necessary to have our own country down here, and most people don't like the way most of the country is, so my question is, why not?
Matrix Heart:
--- Quote from: Sikotic Don't Wait For The Game Cuz The Game Don't Wait on March 22, 2005, 11:41:38 AM ---
Another thing, if you're living in America, you don't really have the right to shit talk the country. Think about it, you're benefitting from it's resources, it's opportunities, and ultimitely it's government. I gotta agree with Mauzip, that hustla_4eva dude is being hypocritical. If you grew up in the US all you're life, ITS YOUR HOME.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding where you're coming from, and I probably am unless you've been to Africa & spent some time there. I know in my situation, I got roots and family in Armenia, but I can't call Armenia my home because I've never been there. I'm pretty sure I'll feel more at home in the US than over there.
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Fuck America and Americans the only reason I'm here is cause of their bitch ass government.
There is alot more I can say but I will go now :)
Trauma-san:
I think the problem stems from our two party system. Dems who are anti-bush sometimes get labeled as anti-american, because alot of the things Bush does are pro-American, and to criticise Bush, the dems criticise the things he does. So they come off looking like they're anti-American. I think ultimately, they're not fighting very smart, Bush was such a sitting duck last election, he had so many things going against him, and the dems fucked it up. If they would have acted smartly, and proclaimed themselves the party that wants the best for America... if they would have attacked Bush's actions, while supporting (yes, actually supporting) the things he was doing in America's best interests, they could have walked away with the election.
Instead, they unfairly criticised every single thing he did; the American public aren't that stupid... they know when Kerry had absolutely no plans of his own, and criticised every single thing Bush did, that it was all smoke and mirrors. Surely EVERYTHING Bush did wasn't wrong, the dems were just too afraid to give him credit for anything. If they would have gave up a little ground, acknowledged the things he did right, and said 'we can do even better', they would have walked away with the election.
Anyways. Like I said, that's where the anti-american confusion comes from. They're actually anti-Bush, to such a degree that they come off looking like Anti-American, which of course ruins their political ambitions. Dumbasses. They've already lost the senate, they've lost the house, they've lost the presidency, they've lost the majority of the gubernatorial races, you'd think eventually they'd figure out where they're fucking up.
The Watcher:
the american govt is sheisty.. like calling a bill the "US Patriot Act" so if people objected to it, they would seem un-patriotic
Suffice:
--- Quote from: Sikotic Don't Wait For The Game Cuz The Game Don't Wait on March 22, 2005, 11:41:38 AM ---Another thing, if you're living in America, you don't really have the right to shit talk the country. Think about it, you're benefitting from it's resources, it's opportunities, and ultimitely it's government. I gotta agree with Mauzip, that hustla_4eva dude is being hypocritical. If you grew up in the US all you're life, ITS YOUR HOME.
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Wanting the best for your country is an American tradition. If i'm criticizing my government and backing it up with thoughful reasons why i disagree with it, it's the most patriotic thing i can do. Even though i'm benefitting for the resources and all that, I want it only to get better, not dwindle, which is something i'm seeing happening right now under the Bush administration. I like America, but i can talk shit about it, namely the current government, because ultimately the government represents the people, and by criticizing the government i'm criticizing america, but it's all out of love.
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