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The Myth Of White Superiority
NobodyButMe:
--- Quote from: Mullah Nasrudin on March 26, 2005, 08:39:23 PM ---It's clear from the replies to this thread that racism is still alive and well. Many of you are still desperately clinging to your racist mentalities of white superiority.
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dude, just because someone doesn't agree with your point doesn't make them racist. you're trying to get something out of us that we're not going to say because we think it's bullshit.
the point of the professor is valid, but it's valid across all races in all countries and not exclusive to whites alone. i'm sorry, but there isn't any one race that you can sit here and say is perfect.
ecrazy:
--- Quote from: Mullah Nasrudin on March 27, 2005, 08:09:04 AM ---
--- Quote from: Trauma on March 27, 2005, 06:46:15 AM ---How's your pop, infinite? I think that's what this post is ultimately about.
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Thank you Dr. Phil! You have just erased a 600 year history of racist imperialism by reminding me that my father drank alcohol.
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Um, am i getting this clear or are you calling him a racist because he said your father drank alcohol?? And Your White right? and this is towards you, so a white guy is being racist to another white guy who wishes he was black? right?....
nibs:
Mullah Nasrudin:
"Whites, adhering to the value system of the West, place a premium on conquering people and developing objects. While that way of thinking has led to the many technological advancements that have made the United States the most powerful nation in the world, it has virtually ignored advancements in the human development and created a powerful country of dangerous, underdeveloped, primitive human beings."
well, i don't see why he singled out "whites" and not more specifically "western values" or "europeans". other than that i think his statement is 100% on point.
The Myth Of White Superiority
i'd like to point out that this really depends on how you define "superiority". you're argument is almost untenable with individuals (like those among us) that are completely immersed in western values to begin with.
Shallow
let's pull out some of your ideas and put things into some perspective.
As opposed to the East which has been home Muslim dictators that kill entire race's of people because they feel like it
We also have parts of India that promote honor over morailty which leads to young men killing their own grandmothers
Let's not forget communist Russia <snip> And of course beautiful main land China
your examples are pretty much on point, but your thinking is flawed. western culture has been pervasive throughout the world in the past two centuries. you are talking about communist russia and communist china...communism itself is a western social & economic system, which is designed specifically to address and control the production of "objects" and distribution of wealth and power. your examples of russia and china are actually examples of western values corrupting and ruining cultures and peoples. communism in both russia and china have acted to undermine the very tenets that akbar holds up as important, and that is a western philosophy that has spread.
similarly, muslim dictators were propped up and put in place by the most part from the west; or assumed power after overthrowing puppet govts that western nations setup in the region. such is the case in iran, iraq, syria and elsewhere. this is actually another example of the west's destructive influence around the world.
your examples strengthen akbar's argument.
now, i certainly don't think akbar was trying to say that every non western culture was roses; they clearly weren't and aren't. what akbar is trying to say is that everything the west has accomplished is borderline meaningless, and has done more harm than good to the human condition.
akbar's point about human development and the problems with the west are, in my opinion, somewhat misdirected. conquering nations isn't particularly useful; developing objects is. the problem however isn't with the focus on developing of objects, but the lack of focus on human and spiritual development. his argument should be more focused on the values and the culture; but the development of objects itself isn't a problem and is actually pretty useful in many contexts.
Shallow:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So when Saddam killed off al the Kurds, it was the US's fault? Or when Turkey killed 2 million Armenians in a Holocaust it was the West way of thinking that was reason? When a kid in India kills his recently raped sister because she defamed the family by getting raped, I guess that's somehow some white guy's fault too.
The fault lies in the human mind and the stupidity that plagues. It's not a white/black or east/west thing. Even great thinkers like Confuscious felt women were not good enough to walk on the same side of the road, and this was well before western involvement. Egypt had slaves to build their great pyramids. It goes much further back than western society taking over the world.
Also, communism was never prominant in western culture. Russia was quite diffrent from the rest of Europe. It's like calling a latino the same as a black creek native because some look the same.
Trauma-san:
Kill Whitey!
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