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John Paul II is on his death bed
acbaylove:
--- Quote from: Antonio on April 01, 2005, 03:34:35 AM ---
--- Quote from: Overseer on April 01, 2005, 03:32:35 AM ---
you're joking right tonio? hardcore catholics hang off everything the church says..
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Hardcore catholics dont have pre-marriage sex. End of the story.
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Oh, and i live in Italy, where the Pope lives, and i still gotta meet one of those hardcore catholic dudes who never had sex before he got married. Or who doesnt use condoms because the Church is against them.
acbaylove:
--- Quote from: Mac_10 on April 01, 2005, 03:38:38 AM ---
--- Quote from: Antonio on April 01, 2005, 03:33:39 AM ---Mauzip you are not getting the point. The Pope, from a religious and ethical point of view, doesnt like pre-marriage sex. That's not what this Pope is saying, but what every Pope in our history will repeat, because that's our religion. He said real Christians devoted to Christ should have sex only after they get married, so they shouldnt use condoms because having sex with your wife is something wonderful, normal and ethically correct. Get the point straight. He aint against condoms in general, but he's more likely against free sex and "empty" sex, pre-marriage sex, savage sex, sex with no love, etc..
About abortion, once again, get your facts straight. Like i said, Pope is pro-family. After two people get married, they should have kids. So to kill them is something the Church cant accept. But you gotta start from a FAMILY prospective, cause that's the only one the Church accepts. It's pointless to say that Pope is against 15 years old girls raped who wanna abort! Pope is pro-family and pro-life, like our religion is.
Then you can have sex before you get married (i did), you can use condoms to fight AIDS (i did and i do), you can consider abortion (i didnt yet), and you can even consider euthanasia. In fact, in The Netherlands where you live, euthanasia is legal, abortion is legal, condoms are legal, pre-marriage sex is normal.
To diss a man who's dying because of this shit is childish.
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completely on point ^^^^^^^
mauzip, the pope says u shouldn't use condoms bcoz the point of sex is to create life and condoms stop u from doing that
sex is not meant to just be something that is fun, it is to create life and no man should be able to choose when or not a child can be born
life is a gift from God
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Exactly. Then you are free to do whatever you want. But this is what Christianity says about sex.
mauzip:
Fact is that people still have sex even if they're catholic. You could deny that, but you could also be realistic... if only the pope would say it's ok to use condoms IF you're having sex...
Actually, I think the pope is responsible for a lot of deaths. I'm not calling him (indirect) a murderer though.
acbaylove:
--- Quote from: Mauzip on April 01, 2005, 03:40:54 AM ---Fact is that people still have sex even if they're catholic. You could deny that, but you could also be realistic... if only the pope would say it's ok to use condoms IF you're having sex...
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The Pope cant say that. But a lot of Cardinals said so. Like 10 of them. They said youth shouldnt do sex for fun, but if they really wanna do it, they should do it in a safe way. In fact i do sex and i use condoms.
--- Quote ---Actually, I think the pope is responsible for a lot of deaths. I'm not calling him (indirect) a murderer though.
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Savage sex is the reason why a lot of people died. Not the Pope. Gay people "created" AIDS, not the Pope. Immoral people who had sex for fun "created" abortion, not the Pope. If you have sex only with your wife, and not for fun, you dont die.
The Watcher:
how can you blame the Pope for that? the pope just speaks on the views of the catholic church. catholics not using condoms has been a belief of the church for years, before this Pope was around and chances are its gonna be around for a long time to come. holdin the Pope responsible for that, is like holdin the guys who made the constitution in America responsible for every gun related death since they had the 'right to bare arms' shit in it
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