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Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
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--- Quote from: KING VerbalAssaulta on April 03, 2005, 10:54:00 AM ---its called an early soft schedule...i tried telling everyone they'd be a 500 team way before the season started...and i was wrong...they're worse 8) good job kobe
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It has nothing to do with the scheduale, Lakers have had a pretty evened out scheduale, it's just that they've been losing to good AND bad teams lately...Kobe's the only part of the organization that isn't the problem...
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How is Kobe the only part that isn't a problem? He doesn't trust his teammates or give them a chance to play. Why do you think that everybody is standing around watching Kobe? It reminds me of that movie "Celtic Pride." The Utah Jazz have a player who never passes the ball, so his teammates just watch. At the end of the movie, he does pass the ball and it smacks his teammate in the side of the head because he didn't expect it.
Anyway, that just popped in my head. I'm not trying to start an argument, I just want to know your view of how Kobe isn't a problem in the organization.
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LOL, Kobe isn't even considered a ballhog by haters anymore, you're living in the past, there's stats that prove against that, such as his team-high average 6 assists...It's already been known that Kobe is like a mentor to these players and is trying to get the players involved as much as possible...But unfortunately, the players rely on Kobe to take care of things... They just all stand around the 3-point line and fire up shots as soon as they get the ball...People like you make me laugh, because you probably haven't seen a Laker game all season, yet you're trying to tell me how the Lakers play and why they're playing that way... ::)
acbaylove:
The truth is in the middle. Kobe is a guy who gets other teammates involved in 3/4 of the match, usually. He's averaging 6 assists per game, an impressive stat for a SG (he's in the top15 of the whole NBA). But he's not an assist-man, anyway. The "problem" is that in the 4th quarter usually he takes 90% of the shots, even if doubled or tripled. And he forces a lot of shot, so that produces a lot of turnovers. It happened with Shaq in the team too, cause Phil didnt want Shaq to go to the charity line having a 0/2 performance. So, you know, to shoot 90% of the times in the 4th quarter was his job with Shaq, and it's his job in todays post-Shaq Lakers too. There's only a difference: Shaq. Those players gotta understand that they dont have Shaq in their team, so they cant let Kobe play alone. They should try to take some responsabilities more. Lakers coach said several times that Odom should be more selfish, cause he's like afraid to take a pass from Kobe. Odom is the one who's not taking his responsabilities, and he has admitted it. There's a game Lakers have lost, i think against Golden State, where Kobe had the ball for the last shot, he passed it to Walton, and Walton instead of shooting from 3pts (he was alone!), he gave the ball back to Kobe, and time expired. I think that's the best photography of the season!! Lakers teammates needs to be more involved!! That's the key! And, to back on topic, that's a work the coach should handle, not Kobe. So yes, the Lakers need a good coach.
OneHittaSpitta:
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on April 03, 2005, 01:15:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: OneHittaSpitta on April 02, 2005, 07:06:37 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on April 02, 2005, 07:00:28 PM ---Lakers play like they lost hope.
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thats what im sayin tho, they lost hope when Rudy T retired. It was Kobe's job to get the team going, he's supposed to be the leader. The coach is the coach, but every team needs a leader on the floor, in the locker room, etc. Kobe didnt step up to that challenge.
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Hell yea Kobe did...Kobe's been guiding the players more than Frank Hamblen, don't you ever see him play? All of LA has been talking about how Kobe is doing Hamblen's job, encouraging the players, letting them know when they're playing out of position, etc....It's been known...But obviously, they still need a coach...The Bulls wouldn't have gone anywhere if Jordan was their only coach...
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Being a leader on the team isnt about telling everyone what to do. Hell, Vlade probably has more basketball knowledge then Kobe, based on league experience. Its about motivating your teammates. If Kobe wants to win as bad as u say he does, he has to get everyone else to want it just as bad. If not, theyll just keep losing. Thats where he's failing as a leader. Directing traffic on the court is the easy part.
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: OneHittaSpitta on April 04, 2005, 02:19:27 AM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on April 03, 2005, 01:15:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: OneHittaSpitta on April 02, 2005, 07:06:37 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on April 02, 2005, 07:00:28 PM ---Lakers play like they lost hope.
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thats what im sayin tho, they lost hope when Rudy T retired. It was Kobe's job to get the team going, he's supposed to be the leader. The coach is the coach, but every team needs a leader on the floor, in the locker room, etc. Kobe didnt step up to that challenge.
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Hell yea Kobe did...Kobe's been guiding the players more than Frank Hamblen, don't you ever see him play? All of LA has been talking about how Kobe is doing Hamblen's job, encouraging the players, letting them know when they're playing out of position, etc....It's been known...But obviously, they still need a coach...The Bulls wouldn't have gone anywhere if Jordan was their only coach...
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Being a leader on the team isnt about telling everyone what to do. Hell, Vlade probably has more basketball knowledge then Kobe, based on league experience. Its about motivating your teammates. If Kobe wants to win as bad as u say he does, he has to get everyone else to want it just as bad. If not, theyll just keep losing. Thats where he's failing as a leader. Directing traffic on the court is the easy part.
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He does wanna win, but given what he has he's done all he could...There's not much more he can do, he might as well be the team mascot too...He doesn't have much to work with, that's all I'm saying...Jordan obviously had much more than what Kobe has now...PeACe
King Of L.A.:
--- Quote from: OneHittaSpitta on April 02, 2005, 07:06:37 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on April 02, 2005, 07:00:28 PM ---Lakers play like they lost hope.
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thats what im sayin tho, they lost hope when Rudy T retired. It was Kobe's job to get the team going, he's supposed to be the leader. The coach is the coach, but every team needs a leader on the floor, in the locker room, etc. Kobe didnt step up to that challenge.
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you're a stupid moron. what do u mean he hasn't stepped up to the challenge? i bet u havn't watched one laker game all season. you're just going by their record. kobe is always talking to his teamates on the floor, trying to lead them. Frank Hamblin is a horrible coach bottom line.. hes might be a good assistant but thats as far as he'll go in NBA. Lakers had a winning record when Rudy T was their. once he leaves, everything went down the drain.
look at the Denver Nuggets. Earlier this season they were on there way to be the worst team in the NBA Now look at them Once George Karl took over they're a totally diffrent team and playing the best basketball in the NBA right now. That just shows you how important a coach could be.
Lakers need to get a Larry Brown. Hes a winner. LA also needs to make alot of trades this offseason. This team was horribly put together by Mitch Kupchak. He should be fired. As long as LA has point guards like chucky atkins & tierre brown they will never be a playoff team.
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