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Trauma-san:

--- Quote from: Sikotic Don't Wait For The Game Cuz The Game Don't Wait on April 05, 2005, 04:54:03 PM ---That's true, but if it wasn't for that "make a change" frame of mind, we would still be stuck in the middle ages.

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Of course.  It takes all kinds of people to make the world go around.  If EVERYBODY had fantasies about being famous, or ending world hunger, and shit like that, nothing would get done, though.  You need a balance of both.  I like art.  I like music.  I like movies.  I like teachers.  I'm not downing any of that, I'm just saying that's what it is.

As for the intelligence thing, true intellect is subtle and unstated.  When someone "thinks" they're smart enough to teach children, watch out.  When someone "thinks" they're smart enough to change the world, watch out. 

When you realize exactly how foolish and naieve, and pretentious you are, that's when you REALLY start to learn and aquire knowledge, that's my experience. 

Oh, and in case there's ANY doubt, it's absolutely ridiculous, and a sign of closed mindedness Overseer, to state that intelligence and liberalism are related.  Are you honestly so full of shit that you believe that?  The intelligence manifests itself differently, it's not at all, in any shape or form correlated with political leanings.

I consider myself intelligent, vastly more intelligent than you, and when I was a college student, I was very liberal.  I didn't believe in God; I didn't agree with hardly any conservative ideals, I voted for Bill Clinton.  As I grew older, and learned more about the world, I became more conservative, it's just how I lean, it has nothing to do with intellect.  An intelligent liberal might go on to be a famous writer, or a journalist, or a scientist.  An intelligent conservative might be named Bill Gates. 

Pretentious, look it up.

Don Seer:

--- Quote from: Trauma on April 05, 2005, 09:05:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sikotic Don't Wait For The Game Cuz The Game Don't Wait on April 05, 2005, 04:54:03 PM ---That's true, but if it wasn't for that "make a change" frame of mind, we would still be stuck in the middle ages.

--- End quote ---

Of course.  It takes all kinds of people to make the world go around.  If EVERYBODY had fantasies about being famous, or ending world hunger, and shit like that, nothing would get done, though.  You need a balance of both.  I like art.  I like music.  I like movies.  I like teachers.  I'm not downing any of that, I'm just saying that's what it is.

As for the intelligence thing, true intellect is subtle and unstated.  When someone "thinks" they're smart enough to teach children, watch out.  When someone "thinks" they're smart enough to change the world, watch out. 

When you realize exactly how foolish and naieve, and pretentious you are, that's when you REALLY start to learn and aquire knowledge, that's my experience. 

Oh, and in case there's ANY doubt, it's absolutely ridiculous, and a sign of closed mindedness Overseer, to state that intelligence and liberalism are related.  Are you honestly so full of shit that you believe that?  The intelligence manifests itself differently, it's not at all, in any shape or form correlated with political leanings.

I consider myself intelligent, vastly more intelligent than you, and when I was a college student, I was very liberal.  I didn't believe in God; I didn't agree with hardly any conservative ideals, I voted for Bill Clinton.  As I grew older, and learned more about the world, I became more conservative, it's just how I lean, it has nothing to do with intellect.  An intelligent liberal might go on to be a famous writer, or a journalist, or a scientist.  An intelligent conservative might be named Bill Gates. 

Pretentious, look it up.

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LOL you fool.. you fell into the trap.. knew someone would.

just becuase you THINK you're intelligent doesnt mean you are.

You're the pretentious one I never proclaimed my own intelligence. (which makes you liar too!) yet you just did! hypocrite.. theres a word for you!

Take your holier than thou attitude and go live with infnite.. you're two sides of the same coin, blind to your own ignorance and overly self-important.

i know my own limits and i know my strengths. its a strength to  know when things are beyond ones own limits.
sounds crazy? i work with a bunch of people of similar technical ability to myself.
BUT.. due to inflated ego's they waste project time as they won't admit when they're stuck or wrong
they'll sit hiding the fact they're stuck as they don't want to appear "stupid".

therefore I get the kudos.. because when I get stuck... I will use the resources (people, or whatever) around me
to get past that block and maintain progress.. thats pragmatism triumphing over pretentiousness.
and in the end i'm past the gate first.. that makes me reliable and dependable.

its about getting the job done. not about fronting over who's got the bigger brain, dick whatever..

almost typical tortoise and hare type shit. being aloof and selfish won't help you in the end.


Ant:
In every argument one side has to declare to the other side that they know more.  The losing side is typically the first to call the other a 'know-it-all' and then at the same time proclaim they are just that.   If I'm not being entirely clear there is a common psychological tendency for people on the losing side of an argument to lash out at the other side for being arrogant.  As if calling osmeone an arrogant know it all disproves an argument - it doesn't. But that is pretty much what most of Trauma's arguments boil down to.  When he has nothing better to say he runs around calling the other side arrogant...

Then time and time again Trauma makes assertions that can easily be picked apart by an astute observer, and when they are he just runs away with his tail behind his legs, and pretends like they never happened.    Case in point..... the claim that intelligent liberals might be "writers, or scientists" while intelligent conservatives might be highly successful businessmen.  Sure I don't doubt that there are many successful liberal scientists and jounralists - altho I would question the apparent lack of conservative scientists - but an intelligent liberal might also turn out to be Warren Buffet, Steve Jobs, Lee IaCocca, or George Soros. 

If you want evidence of intelligence or lack thereof look at an individuals life accomplishments...  If Trauma was intelligent or "vastly more intelligent than overseer" then why is he a 30 yr old loser?  You have intelligence dig yourself out of the 20 foot deep ditch you call a life and do something interesting.. until then your claims of intelligence are meanlingless and most likely will be for the rest of your existence.

7even:
Businessmen are often rather conservative for 2 reasons:
1) things should remain the way they are, because they wanna remain as mighty and rich as they are, which pretty much gives away a conservative attitude
2) to be up in the game, most likely you got to be an asshole, that's just the way it is lol. talking about bill gates, I think a liberal person would rather not use those barely legal tactics he always used to fuck the competition up. That's a tough claim I can't back up with anything but it is just my view of it - think about it, and if you disagree well then it's just not meant to be.

the author of the "Godfather" said something like "under every huge fortune, there's a crime behind it"
- and I sorta agree with it. most cases, definitely, sometimes not a crime by law, but at least moral.

Don Seer:

so you'd agree with the following statement? Conservatives are more immoral.

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