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I TO DA GEEZY:

--- Quote from: Mullah Nasrudin on April 17, 2005, 05:45:11 AM ---Malcolm X put the whole situation into plain English when he spoke on the desicion made at the UN in 1948 to create a Jewish state in Palestine (Isreal), paraphrased...

"Basically, the white powers of America and Europe, got together and decided to create a Jewish homeland in the heart of the Arab world.  So you have all these white Jews being placed (by force) amongst all these dark skinned Muslims."

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This is rather an interesting concept u have to admit, since many Jews who nowadays live in Israel see it not only as their Homeland but also as some sort of a shelter from anti-semitism, The state of Israel was created as a result of the Haulacaust, to serve as some sort of a National Refuge for the Jewish people and to prevent further Bursts of Anti-semitism of the same scale. So the idea of the Jewish people being forced to live in this Land seems acceptable when u think about it.

Shallow:

--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on April 17, 2005, 08:41:28 AM ---
--- Quote from: Mullah Nasrudin on April 17, 2005, 05:45:11 AM ---Malcolm X put the whole situation into plain English when he spoke on the desicion made at the UN in 1948 to create a Jewish state in Palestine (Isreal), paraphrased...

"Basically, the white powers of America and Europe, got together and decided to create a Jewish homeland in the heart of the Arab world.  So you have all these white Jews being placed (by force) amongst all these dark skinned Muslims."

--- End quote ---

This is rather an interesting concept u have to admit, since many Jews who nowadays live in Israel see it not only as their Homeland but also as some sort of a shelter from anti-semitism, The state of Israel was created as a result of the Haulacaust, to serve as some sort of a National Refuge for the Jewish people and to prevent further Bursts of Anti-semitism of the same scale. So the idea of the Jewish people being forced to live in this Land seems acceptable when u think about it.

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I got the impression that it was just another White people trying to keep others down type quote from Malcolm X, and the point was that it was something bad for both Palestineans and Jews. (correct me if I'm wrong Infinte). The way I see it being forced to move to Israel as a Jew post WW2 is like being forced to cash a winning lottery ticket. Every Jew on the face of the Earth already thought of Israel as the home land. Current Istanbul was once a prominant Greek city called Constantinople, before the Muslims invaded. If the UN were to step in and declare Istanbul be Constantinople once more and "force" Greeks to move there. There will not be one hesitant soul.

TraceOneInfinite:
You guys read that quote wrong, so I erased the paranthesis where I paraphrased.  The "by force" part meant that Jews were being placed into Palestine by force, meaning that the Palestinians were resisting, yet the Jews with the help of the European powers were forcing the Muslims to accept a desicion in which they had no voice in their own affairs.

TraceOneInfinite:

--- Quote from: Shallow on April 17, 2005, 09:01:04 AM ---Current Istanbul was once a prominant Greek city called Constantinople, before the Muslims invaded. If the UN were to step in and declare Istanbul be Constantinople once more and "force" Greeks to move there. There will not be one hesitant soul.

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You act like we are talking about ancient history or something... There are Palestinian homes being demolished as we speak!  They've demolished tens of thousands of Palestinian homes just in the last couple years!  They have not stopped advancing deeper and deeper into Palestinian land (it was all Palestinian land to begin with, they changed the name from Palestine to Isreal in 1948), they are not going to stop advancing, this is the real genocide that is happening in the world.

Shallow:

--- Quote from: Abdul Infinite aka Mullah Nasrudin on April 17, 2005, 04:03:48 PM ---You guys read that quote wrong, so I erased the paranthesis where I paraphrased.  The "by force" part meant that Jews were being placed into Palestine by force, meaning that the Palestinians were resisting, yet the Jews with the help of the European powers were forcing the Muslims to accept a desicion in which they had no voice in their own affairs.

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Oh, in that case, I completely agree.

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