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Your Purpose In Life
rafsta:
--- Quote from: Abdul Infinite aka Ibn Battuta on May 04, 2005, 11:04:33 AM ---
--- Quote from: Captain on May 04, 2005, 05:01:20 AM ---
--- Quote from: Abdul Infinite aka Ibn Battuta on May 03, 2005, 08:32:46 PM ---To Worship Allah
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do you really think thats all Allah wants you to do ?
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Yes, because Islam is a comprehensive religion, it is program whereby you strive to maintain a constant state of submission to the will of Allah, it is interwoven into everything a Muslim does.
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what are you going to get out of life worshipping Allah all the time ? yes being spiritual is a good thing, but we werent created just to worship God....
i guess do what makes you happy, if thats what makes you happy and its the truth, fuck it then do it... my life philosophy is do what pleases you, at the same time treating everyone and everything the same way as you would like yourself... thats my religion.
Don Seer:
^ yeah thats pretty much how i am..
this is a reply to what infinite posted about islam being comprehensive..
ok..now this leads me to something a local priest once told me.
bear with me 'finite..
in essence he said that christianity isnt all about beliiving in god, jesus and everything as fact.. but in believing that the moral messages and stories, fables whatever set down in the bible when followed with or without guidance from the church _still_ make you a christian.
by that definition i am a christian.. now i dont consider myself one although i have been christened into the COE, and as a child i was pretty much forced against my will to go to sunday school, and was involved in organisations like cub scouts where church was a part of the organisation. all through this entire time i never ever "believed" in god. i never went to church out of free will. i believe however i am a morally 'good' person because i have a strong conscience.
personally i have a paradox. i have a respect for the moral guidelines set down by organised religious processes.. not just christian ones. but i have a huge distaste for anything that seeks to ostracise, to make examples of or to interfere too much in peoples lives as an example i believe contraception, abortion, issues of mixing race in marriage etc are down to the individual rather than a controlling religious OR political system.
in essence.. outside belief, i believe religion in terms of personal growth, guideance, and in times where support is needed is a good thing. and a bad thing when it gets too deep into every day living.
now i know in christianity people take things literally too.. and some would call you sinner for doubting.. but i'm curious.. but i was amazed this at how this priest explained it to me..
now a question for infinite..
without belief... is someone following islamic codes and practices who doesnt believe in allah, but believes in the moral code and guidelines of the religion.. perhaps one who see's allah as being the good side of self, of conscience and of character.. is that person accepted like they are in christianity?
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Captain on May 04, 2005, 11:27:45 AM ---
what are you going to get out of life worshipping Allah all the time ? yes being spiritual is a good thing, but we werent created just to worship God....
i guess do what makes you happy, if thats what makes you happy and its the truth, fuck it then do it... my life philosophy is do what pleases you, at the same time treating everyone and everything the same way as you would like yourself... thats my religion.
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Your still not understanding what I'm saying... it's not like I have to go off in a corner and to worship Allah all day, Islam is a comprehensive religion, even when I'm having sex with my wife that is an act of worship; it is related that the Prophet Muhammad (saws) taught the Muslims that when one is having intercourse with his wife he is safe and secure from the temptations of the Shatan that can be found outside the home. Anything we do we do in the name of Allah and it becomes an act of worship. Our job, our dealings with people in business we deal in fairness, charging interest is a sin in Islam, etc... there is even a supplication we make before and after entering the bathroom, etc., etc., it's a constant state of submission we strive for.
rafsta:
sorry when i read this i got a different impression...
--- Quote from: Abdul Infinite aka Ibn Battuta on May 03, 2005, 08:32:46 PM ---To Worship Allah
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i guess it makes sense now...
p.s when you do have sex with ure wife, dont quote the Quoran ;)
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Overseer on May 04, 2005, 11:31:07 AM ---now a question for infinite..
without belief... is someone following islamic codes and practices who doesnt believe in allah, but believes in the moral code and guidelines of the religion.. perhaps one who see's allah as being the good side of self, of conscience and of character.. is that person accepted like they are in christianity?
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First of all, thank you for actually addressing me with decency (for the first time in a long time).
Second of all, I don't know the answer to that question, but maybe if you ask it in another way I will be able to answer it.
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