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Really, is an Iraqi police officer any different than an American troop?
Jome:
So much U.S. propaganda in one thread. :D
Btw, you do know that close to none of the "insurgents" on that TV show get a fair trial right ?
It probably works great as entertainment and as a propaganda machine, but the accused on that show really have no option, guilty or not.
AndrE16686:
--- Quote from: Needles Kane on May 11, 2005, 03:05:16 PM ---yeah if you consider making money legally so that you can live , feed your family and buy things..... to make progress past a war that has decimated your country and try to do something better for your community, working for america....i guess they deserve to die
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Exactly they are just trying to make the most of a bullshit situation! Bush is a fuckwit, but these 'insugents' will rot in hell alongside him. They target indiscriminately in the hope that the rising death toll will reflect badly on the US.GRRAH!
Thirteen:
--- Quote from: System Lords on May 11, 2005, 11:58:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Needles Kane on May 11, 2005, 03:05:16 PM ---yeah if you consider making money legally so that you can live , feed your family and buy things..... to make progress past a war that has decimated your country and try to do something better for your community, working for america....i guess they deserve to die
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lol I wanna see that happen to America ;D
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it's not gonna happen in our lifetime... you might as well move to israel or something if you want to see crazy stuff happen
Thirteen:
--- Quote from: Abdul Infinite aka Ibn Battuta on May 11, 2005, 07:36:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Needles Kane on May 11, 2005, 03:05:16 PM ---yeah if you consider making money legally so that you can live , feed your family and buy things..... to make progress past a war that has decimated your country and try to do something better for your community, working for america....i guess they deserve to die
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Did you forget the part about Iraqi police officers running up in people's cribs and blowing their heads off? Or the part about Iraqi politicians always blaming "insurgents" for any problems the country is having, nevermind the fact that 140,000 foriegn troops have just came and murdered 100,000 Iraqi's in an effort to steal their natural resources and expand their global reach? Did you forget that part of it?
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it's great..
on one side you have people murdering, killing and maiming for money.
on the other you have people murdering, killing and maiming for allah.
am i supposed to see a difference between the two?
what ever happened to people that believed in a religion that stood as a beacon of light? your God is dying and it's your own people that are killing him. why should a muslim man in your religion try and live noble and humble when they can have a slave mentality...blame their short coming on the white western male and kill everyone in sight for gain? Maybe you should spend one hour less reading the Koran, and use that hour to read up on Friedrich Nietzsche.... get a little perspective in your shallow view
rafsta:
--- Quote from: Woodrow on May 12, 2005, 11:27:42 AM ---
--- Quote from: Abdul Infinite aka Ibn Battuta on May 12, 2005, 03:20:28 AM ---LMAO!!!!!!!!
Damn... You are so brainwashed man, you have totally lost your mind!!!!!! You think they do it for money?!!!!! HAHAHAA!!!! Unbelievable!! Yeah, the insurgents are really living it up hiding out in swamps, farms and deserts having bombs dropped on their heads...... they are on ballin status, making it big in the prisons of Abu Graib and Gauntanamo Bay!.... this is one of the most ridiculous things you've ever said.
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Iraq has a smash-hit television show: "Terrorism in the Hands of Justice." The hour-long episodes without commercials are shown six nights per week on a government-owned, US-sponsored station.
I watched an episode with nine Iraqi translators working for the US Army. The translators say they "love the show," "watch it every night," and that Iraqis "downtown" chatter every morning about the latest episodes.
The format is simple: Captured insurgents start by admitting to crimes, such as killing Americans or Iraqi civilians. The insurgents also admit that they have not committed the attacks because of religion or national defense, but because their families are threatened, or that they are paid for the attacks, or both.
Some admit to taking the money from attacks, then to getting drunk or hiring prostitutes. The suspects on the episode I watched had not yet been sentenced. This situation can vault the mind's eye to disturbing vistas about the state of "civil rights" here. Yet Iraq is at war with itself, and justice in this area of the world is as far behind, by comparison, as are their non-existent space programs. For any country not at war, the idea of forcing suspects onto television—before being sentenced—is far beyond the boundary of mere "wrong." But I walked among the smoking debris of yet another car bomb a couple days ago. Civil rights require that most people respect the civilization enough to stop those who do not. Some folks in Europe and America are saying that the show is a travesty of civil rights. They are right. Better ideas are welcome.
If the television program is a Psyop ploy, it seems to be working. The episodes have so angered many Iraqis that tips to authorities are radically increasing. In a raid some days ago, based on information from such a tip, Iraqi and US forces killed about 85 insurgents. I accompanied a reconnaissance yesterday looking for more insurgents, and the US captain leading the patrol told me that one of the suspects on the television show had come from a village we were in. The captain said that the suspect had admitted to beheading 23 captives.
Many Iraqis apparently have felt that insurgents were attacking the government based on religious duties. The "invisible" insurgents can seem omniscient and increasingly omnipotent. When the people see that many insurgents are merely killers for hire—street thugs who talk with street dialects—the citizens call authorities. Psyop, or just smart, the program is working.
The peace can be won here, but the steep road ahead is only for the strong.
http://michaelyon.blogspot.com/2005/03/talk-of-iraq.html
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i'm not denying that quote in any way, but you have to remember the U.S is trying to win this war mentally as much as physically, they can easily create these episodes etc. as they could fake almost anything... all i'm saying is thats not such a reliable source. i find it hard to believe that these insurgents are willing to die in battle, then they just snitch.
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