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Come up with actual good reasons on why Nash was deserving of the MVP
Javier:
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--- Quote from: Javier on May 12, 2005, 05:37:01 PM ---i dont think shaq deserved it either. Its Duncan and shaq behind him. Behind Nash, the Suns back up PGs suck..in fact their whole bench sucks...they only play what? 7 players regularly. So when nash was out, the replacement really sucked balls. Its not Duncans fault that his team is deeper, he deserves it
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You still haven't given a good reason as to why Nash didn't deserve the MVP. You're giving arguements that don't make sense. The MVP is for the most valueable player to his team, not just the league. And without Nash the Suns are no where as good if he wasn't there, which was proven by the fact that they barely won a game this season when Nash was out of the line up.
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the wins and losses is a bullshit arguement. Look at the On Court off court roland ratings
Tim Duncan
On Court +15.1
Off Court -1.4
Total 16.5 plus
Steve Nash
On Court +12.4
Off Court -2.6
Total 15 plus, which should be higher since he is a PG and is the distributor of the team. (Kidd's rating is higher)
These on court off court numbers prove that Duncan was more valueable to his team than Nash was to his. The wins and losses is a small sample size to be seen as an indicator of importance, these stats are season long. And its simple
--- Quote ---lol he contradicted himself on those two posts. first saying that shaq duncan and garnett were the best in the league then he made an argument for why nash deserved the award
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Typo, i think its very clear that I dont believe Nash deserves the MVP. If i did believe that than why the hell would i make this thread?
OneHittaSpitta:
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my thoughts exactly...
Ðøšïå:
--- Quote from: OneHittaSpitta on May 13, 2005, 12:00:41 AM ---
--- Quote from: Javier on May 11, 2005, 09:02:33 PM ---...
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my thoughts exactly...
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<sarcasm> plz dont reply if your not bringing anything insightful to the argument. thanks. ;)
PS: Javier let it go. nash is well deserving and he got it. big fuckin deal!
OneHittaSpitta:
--- Quote from: Ðøšïå on May 13, 2005, 12:12:53 AM ---
--- Quote from: OneHittaSpitta on May 13, 2005, 12:00:41 AM ---
--- Quote from: Javier on May 11, 2005, 09:02:33 PM ---...
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my thoughts exactly...
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<sarcasm> plz dont reply if your not bringing anything insightful to the argument. thanks. ;)
PS: Javier let it go. nash is well deserving and he got it. big fuckin deal!
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he's a good player, and a good guy and all...but MVP? lol. Cmon. He's a good fit for the Suns. Damn near any point guard is gonna look unbelievable in that offense. He's like Tom Brady...a little better then average talent, running a good system. Brady gets compared to Joe Montana....(yeah right). Put Shaq, Duncan, Garnett, Iverson, etc...etc....on a shitty team, theyd still be in the top 5-6 players in the league. Put Nash on a team as bad as say....Dallas (lol) and he isnt even the best player on the team. So....Nash, good player, solid point guard, good teammate.....MVP.... ::)
Javier:
hey i didnt have much HW this week for school, lol
i couldnt really get into the debate earlier in the week when it was announced. Ill let it go, but ijust believed the arguements for nash are pretty flawed and weak in my POV. What would be great for basketball is an actual new stat that puts a value for each player with the combination of everything involving the game and the effect teammates have on the each player, and how different lineups throughout the game affect the game and its players a much more detailed stat than lets say the raw stats like PPG, APG, RBG, etc etc
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