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Gays and psychology
Indie Visual:
--- Quote from: J Bananas tells no tales on December 23, 2005, 12:44:51 PM ---^^^
There aren't exclusively gay animals. animals fuck for pleasure reguardless of gender, humans are the only species that have members that choose to only sleep with their kind. which makes me think it's a lifestyle choice and not natural orientation.
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Humans DO fuck each other regardless of gender -- think about prison. It happenes a lot with sex-starved heterosexual people without access to the opposite sex. That is a lifestyle choice. Animals and humans fucking exclusively within their own gender their entire lives seems more like a natural orientation.
J Bananas:
^^^What I'm saying is that we are all programmed to fuck indiscriminately, it's society that has made us decide between gay or straight. if we were more open, i don't think there would be such a thing as gay or straight, we would jst be like animals. being gay exclusively is a lifestyle choice thta is not natural.
eNgIeS:
Umm some ppl are so immature about homosexuality...what anyone does in there bed room should be no one elses business it doesnt hurt anyone they conscenting adults
I've read somewhere that in gay men they have found that alot of them have female chemicals in there brain, in my believes environment could confuse someone into thinking there gay or not (such as child sex abuse victims) but for the most part its a retardation, its something that just happens to some ppl...i feel sorry for them for all the discrimination they get against em for soemthing they didnt choose, it reminds me almost of racism some of the hate they get from some ppl
Cheese:
Some men got a tendency to act feminem (because of their personality traits) and if the environment supports this behaviour, men can develop homosexuality. Same as for all disorders. And dont hate me for calling it a disorder, cause it's no normal behaviour
nibs:
honestly, what's the big deal? both sides of the argument. the homosexual advocates want gayness to be something predetermined, because that validates it. anti-gays want to undermine gayness by saying it's a choice, and a poor one at that.
i believe some people are born with a propensity for gayness. i also believe that some people are born with criminal tendencies, narcissistic tendencies, violent tendencies...etc. it's up to the nurturing to either mask these traits or foster them. i don't think you ever lose them, so a person with some sort of gay predisposition could be raised straight, live a straight life for the majority of their life, and then get turned gay by some major life event. the same trauma can happen to two people (rape/molestation), but only one of them turns gay. why? i submit that only one of them had a predisposition towards it, and the other did not.
but again, like violence; like criminality; like deception; these predispositions manifest themselves as behavior. and society has deemed things like criminality, deception and violence as bad. so the real argument is simply whether or not society is willing to accept gayness as ok and encourage people to exploring those dispositions; or if society is going to shun gayness and force people to work to control those urges.
personally, i don't care what people do, but i don't want gayness flaunted infront of me. i prefer not to watch gay television, gay comedy...etc. if i had children that exhibited homosexual tendencies, i certainly would not encourage them. people can live their lives however they see fit, but i don't have to condone it. and noone (other than maybe my kids if i have any) needs me to validate their behavior.
i think one issue is how people view themselves and spirituality. if you have people that believe in things like karma and reincarnation, the notion that people are already bringing a certain disposition with them into this world is easier to accept. modern christianity tends to shun that sort of notion, and as a result you have people believing that life starts completely at conception with a clean slate. well if you are starting with a clean slate you get stuck trying to explain sexuality and have to blame it on a gene or nurturing. if you believe that people have lived past lives that can subtly influence their current lives, it becomes a little easier to accept the notion that sexuality and criminality and violence are traits that people have inbred within themselves over time, possibly over several lifetimes.
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