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The Minutemen and the Border
OneHittaSpitta:
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--- Quote from: Javier on May 28, 2005, 12:02:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on May 28, 2005, 08:38:41 AM ---
I'm going with Walker on the Minutemen vs Druglords debete. The Minutemen are so filled with pride and purpose and there are so many hicks like them south of Dixie that the street thugs of Cali would be in big trouble if a war broke out
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Drug lords arent Street thugs of Cali. They are from Mexico. They pretty much control parts of Mexico. A mexican soccer team is controlled by a drug lord. Put it this way...a bunch of Mini Pablo Escobars. Mini scarfaces with actual armies backing them up. The NARCOS not the little gangsters the minutemen should be afraid of
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There's still too many hicks down south. Even if a full frontal attack on a group of Americans was brought forth by a bunch of mini Escobars, the US Governemt wouldn't stand for that, because I know a whole of innocent Americans would die. If American citizens were killed in a massive slaying on American soil then Bush would have no choice but to send a whole bag of troops into Mexico and go after everyone of the drug lords. It just won't happen. The Minute Men will still patrol and the drug lords will just find smarter ways of getting people through the border.
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what do u think would happen if we sent troops into mexico to look for all the drug lords? lol. u see how good we've been at finding bin laden, and this would probably be even worse. They might as well send all those "vietnam vets"....we got our ass kicked there and lost that war, why not try somethin else we cant win?
Javier:
the drug lords are smart enough not to commit mass murder. Come on now. If anything they will just be giving out rewards to people to whoever gets a kill off a minuteman. lol they have much more important stuff than to worry about fucking idiots patrolling the border
Fuck Your Existence:
Anyone have any FACTS or STATISTICS that show the drain on our economy that is directly related to Mexican's coming to America? Doe's anyone think that California would be half of what it is without them? There are towns I know in Cali that would cease to exist if it wasnt for the economy generated by undocumented migrant workers. Whats wrong with people comin to this country workin long,hard hours providing for ther famlies while pumpin money into our economy? Id rather have them as neighbors than some Tweekin, Meth lab runnin,waste of skin thats been on welfare thier whole damn life. Sabotoging the water is some cowardly, bitchmade thing to do also. The "Minute Men" are some old washed-up hillbillys that wanna feel like they are apart of something. Instead of keeping hard working people out,how about they round up the real drains on ur society and ship them the fuck out.
Javier:
here is an article about illegal immigrants and the Nevada economy.
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Jobs lure migrants to state
Economy draws illegal immigrants
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Nevada's population growth is fueled in part by a high number of illegal immigrants who help the state keep pace with the demands of growth but also add to it, experts said.
"The more the economy blossoms, the more illegal immigration you're going to have," said Jessie Gutierrez, executive director of Nevada Hispanic Services in Reno. "People are going to use the cheap labor force."
More than 40 percent of Nevada's foreign-born population is in the United States illegally, according to a report issued last week by the Pew Hispanic Center, a Washington, D.C.-based research group.
Nevada is one of 17 states, mostly in the West, that the report a higher-than-average percentage of illegal immigrants. Others include Arizona, Utah, Colorado and Idaho.
More than half of the illegal immigrants, the Pew study estimated, cross the border into the United States from Mexico.
Many stopped in California first, then left for other states, including Nevada.
"Beginning in 1990, you started seeing immigrants moving out of California to places where the economy was better," said Jeffrey Passel, a Pew Center researcher who authored the study. "Right next door (in Nevada) was one of those places."
The newcomers often fill jobs created by growth.
"Rapid population growth means a lot of new construction and housing," Passel said. "That's one of the principal places immigrants, especially undocumented immigrants, work."
The federal government is looking for ways to control the border with Mexico.
"I would say we haven't figured out a way to control or decrease the undocumented migration," Passel said. "Every indication is they are coming for jobs. As the jobs keep growing, they're likely to keep coming."
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Javier on May 28, 2005, 12:36:22 PM ---the drug lords are smart enough not to commit mass murder. Come on now. If anything they will just be giving out rewards to people to whoever gets a kill off a minuteman. lol they have much more important stuff than to worry about fucking idiots patrolling the border
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Correct, they do have more important stuff to worry about than border patrol, which is why I said nothing would end up happening. Even sending hitmen to do the job woould be too risky. It's one thing for Bush to turn his head on illegal immigrants, but to allow American citizens to get killed because of illegal immigration, that's where'd have have to step in. It's like how all that crime that goes on in latino gang communities with drugs, murder, etc. If one of the Bush daughter was ever in there and had gotten raped, I garauntee that every latino gang in America would be disbanded and put in jail with in the first week. Why? Because rich white people don't care until rich white people get hurt, then it's go time. That's why rich white people still run the world. It may not be a good thing but it's the truth.
OneHittaSpitta; You're on some stupid non-educated shit. Most of Mexico won't give a shit of the few super rich drug lords are getting fucked with, and the blacks and latinos in the US don't have the numbers. I don't know what you think but there are more whites in the US then there are latinos and blacks combined and then doubled. Also, your band together theory doesn't really hold any water. If blkacks can't even band together with blacks as a whole, and there are more latinos in the US that want nothing more than the Latino gangs to be diminished, then what makes you think they would go to war over this. Mexico would not war with the states over some drug lords getting killed. Shit man, did you know that there were blacks fighting for the South in the civil war? No one group of people with in the US could/would stand against the US Military and win.
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