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textiles trade war america / europe will lose to china

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Don Seer:
you missed 2 other points in my post?

they were..

1) our "advanced" laws are hurting us in competition with countries who dont protect their workers. its not all about being ineffiicent.. its about simple basline production costs..

2) the side effect of what created the skills shortage pushed people more into working retail... which is actually reenforcing what you said.. we'll end up being service driven.

Sikotic™:

--- Quote from: Overseer on June 05, 2005, 02:05:21 PM ---
its not about double standards. its about looking after #1.

were the tables turned these countries _would_ do the same to us..



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Exactly. China's slowly getting the upper hand so imposing a high tariff will help balance things out.

Don Rizzle:

--- Quote from: Overseer on June 06, 2005, 12:16:29 AM ---you missed 2 other points in my post?

they were..

1) our "advanced" laws are hurting us in competition with countries who dont protect their workers. its not all about being ineffiicent.. its about simple basline production costs..

2) the side effect of what created the skills shortage pushed people more into working retail... which is actually reenforcing what you said.. we'll end up being service driven.

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I agree with you on our employment laws, which is why i have been against the socialist employment laws the eu has been trying to impose on us because they are bad for business and in the long run bad for workers when they can't get jobs, but i'm happy the rest of europe seem to like them because it attracts greater foreign investment into the uk, because our laws relatively lax compared to the rest of europe.

Don Seer:

well i'm not sure if its a case of being against the laws.. i'm for workers/human rights.. just depends how far they go..

if we are losing out against countries who treat their workers badly then imposing import taxes or something simlar to level the playing field could be a way to go.. but.. it makes our export situation bad if we prop up a weak industry by making it only profitable inside our own country.. so a balance has to be found..


btw.. don't america do a similar thing with the banana trade?

Don Rizzle:
oh of course we do need some protection, but the red tape and working hours restrictions brussels try to impose go too far. I am also in favour of our relaxed hirering and firing laws it we are less secure in our jobs but there are plenty more to go around so it works to our benefit, most of the people i know who have been made redundent end up better off anyways.


--- Quote ---if we are losing out against countries who treat their workers badly then imposing import taxes or something simlar to level the playing field could be a way to go.. but.. it makes our export situation bad if we prop up a weak industry by making it only profitable inside our own country.. so a balance has to be found..
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agreed, america and france are two of the worst for subsidising weak industries, even the french wine industry is subsidised!

all i know about the banana wars is that it got ugly, european and american supermarkets drove the price down so far it wasn't worth producing them.

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