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acbaylove:

--- Quote from: Rastaman Vibration on June 26, 2005, 04:20:07 AM ---Samuel is extremely overrated, but Solari is a good signing.
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Let me share my opinion with you: i think Samuel is extremely underrated, not overrated. Here in Italy he was considered the best defender in the world with Nesta, before he moved to Spain. And you know Italy is the place to be if you want to talk about defence, lol. He performed extremely well in Roma, with Capello. Juve tried to sign him a couple of times, and Inter too. But 25m € was just too much for them, so Real signed him. In Madrid, i've heard he failed. But pleasebelieveit, it was not a shock for us italians. Because in Roma he played with Capello as a coach, with a great defence, with at least 2 midfielders who defends too (De Rossi, Dacourt, Emerson, etc..), with a whole team who cared about defence AND offence, not only offence. In Madrid, it was just the opposite. Real's defence sucks (i mean Solari and Roberto Carlos are two great players, but they dont defend at all.. and Helguera is more a midfielder than a defender), and they started to play with a midfield composed by Beckham, Zidane, Guti and Figo, with nobody who cared about defence. So Samuel was pratically the only "real" defender of the team. And he struggled. Now that he'll back in Italy, in Inter, he'll perform better, cause Inter cares about defence more than Real, even if they aint the best in Italy doing that. Put Samuel in Juventus or Milan and he'll back in the top3 in the World all of a sudden, imo. He just aint a player who can play in "this" Real. But it's not only Samuel. Even Nesta and Cannavaro, or Thuram, the best defenders of Serie A, can't perform as good as they do here in Italy if they go to Real. Real just needs to build a more equilibrate team. Only if they'll do it, they'll have some good results in defence. About Solari, i dont know him enought to judge him. Here in Italy he's not even well known. We know he's a Real player who always sits in the bench, but we dont really know him. And that's strange, cause i've always read good reviews about him.

On The Edge of Insanity:
I kinda see your point about the way Real Madrid setup their team, but even that doesn't excuse for how bad he has been with them. He has no positional sense at all, he lets strikers drag him all over the pitch, leaving gaping holes in their defence, which led to a lot of goals they conceded early on the season. He constantly makes rash attempts at sliding tackles which either result in him fouling the player or leaving the rest of the team exposed, and I didn't see anything in his game to suggest why Real would have paid that amount of money for him. I mean prehaps at Roma these weaknesses weren't as obvious because there were other players to cover for him when he was following strikers all over the pitch, but the fact remains that he has major weaknesses in his defensive game, which prevent him, in my eyes from ever being seen as a world class defender, and mean that as far as I'm concerned (even if only in Italy) he is overrated.

acbaylove:

--- Quote from: Rastaman Vibration on June 26, 2005, 06:08:57 AM ---I kinda see your point about the way Real Madrid setup their team, but even that doesn't excuse for how bad he has been with them. He has no positional sense at all, he lets strikers drag him all over the pitch, leaving gaping holes in their defence, which led to a lot of goals they conceded early on the season. He constantly makes rash attempts at sliding tackles which either result in him fouling the player or leaving the rest of the team exposed, and I didn't see anything in his game to suggest why Real would have paid that amount of money for him. I mean prehaps at Roma these weaknesses weren't as obvious because there were other players to cover for him when he was following strikers all over the pitch, but the fact remains that he has major weaknesses in his defensive game, which prevent him, in my eyes from ever being seen as a world class defender, and mean that as far as I'm concerned (even if only in Italy) he is overrated.
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Do you want another example? Cannavaro. He totally sucked last year, in Inter. So much that Inter offered him to us in exchange of our 3rd/4th goalkeeper who was playing on loan in Belgium, at the time. He had minor injuries, he didnt feel considered by the coach, he just wasnt motivated or "happy", and he didnt fit well in Inter defence. Then he moved to Turin pratically for free, with Capello, and he was been named the MVP of the Serie A, according to Italian newspapers, after a wonderful season. What i mean is that for a defender it's too important the rest of the team and the team's organization. They're not like strikers, who no matter where they play they just have to score. I'm hella sure that if Samuel will join Juventus, with Capello, he'll be considered again a top class defender, maybe the best in the world. For sure he sucked in Madrid, but i can quote you thousands of players who are considered great talents/champions who totally sucked here in Italy. Or viceversa. Expecially defenders. An example? Van Der Sar. He's considere one of the best goalkeepers ever, in the rest of Europe. Here in Italy, expecially for Juventus fans, he's considered one of the worse goal keepers ever, for sure he's in the top3 worse goalkeepers in Juventus history. It's like that. It happens. But if a player is a good player, he deserves another chance. Juventus gave it to Cannavaro, and now we've fixed our defence making it the best in Italy and maybe in Europe.

acbaylove:
Oh, talking about Inter, another good example is Veron. And, talking about Chelsea, two other good examples are Crespo and Mutu. 3 players who didnt perform well in England, but who are considered great stars here in Italy. If you judge them only by their seasons in England, then they cant be considered world class. But if you consider them for what they did in Italy, then hell if they arent...!!

Meho:
antonio has a point.same with beckham and owen.they suck in spain but they were considered one of the best in england

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