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Keep in mind, All Eyez On Me hasnt been updated in like over 7 years. Shits probably sold close to 11 or 12 million, and I wouldnt be surprised if it was unofficially the best selling rap album of all time by now. That album is STILL a hot back catalog seller even today. Its pushing more units (even though its 9 years old) then some of the more recent big selling rap albums like GRODT (which is only 2 years old)."Greatest Hits" is probably diamond too, which would make Pac the first and only rapper to have TWO diamond albums.
The RIAA list was updated last week and indicates collective album sales for artists in the U.S. Of course
Oh, and by the way, everybody knows the Elvis and Beatles records are fucked up, because there was a fire years ago that destroyed the album sales records up until that point for Elvis and the Beatles respectfully. They're both probably much higher.
Quote from: ImmortalOne on June 29, 2005, 05:34:55 PMKeep in mind, All Eyez On Me hasnt been updated in like over 7 years. Shits probably sold close to 11 or 12 million, and I wouldnt be surprised if it was unofficially the best selling rap album of all time by now. That album is STILL a hot back catalog seller even today. Its pushing more units (even though its 9 years old) then some of the more recent big selling rap albums like GRODT (which is only 2 years old)."Greatest Hits" is probably diamond too, which would make Pac the first and only rapper to have TWO diamond albums.no.. this is a JUST UPDATED list. this argument pac fan's use doesnt stand anymore...you miss this bit?QuoteThe RIAA list was updated last week and indicates collective album sales for artists in the U.S. Of course
Well no shit AC/DC has sold more total albums.Michael Jackson releases:Off The WallThrillerBadDangerousHistoryBlood On The Dance Floor (remix album)Invincible#1 hits6 albums, a remix album, and a greatest hits album. 8 albums total entire career, spanning nearly 30 years.AC/DC: 30 year careerT.N.T.High VoltageDirty Deeds Done Dirt CheapLet There Be RockPowerageIf You Want BloodHighway To HellBack In BlackFor Those About To RockFlick Of The Switch'74 JailbreakFly On The WallWho Made WhoBlow Up Your VideoThe Razors EdgeLiveBallbreakerBonfire Stiff Upper Lip19 albums. Instead of "AC/DC outsell Michael Jackson!!!" the title ought to read "Michael Jackson nearly outsells AC/DC despite only releasing a third as many albums!!!" but I guess that doesn't have as good of a ring to it.
Quote from: Trauma on June 29, 2005, 08:38:01 PMWell no shit AC/DC has sold more total albums.Michael Jackson releases:Off The WallThrillerBadDangerousHistoryBlood On The Dance Floor (remix album)Invincible#1 hits6 albums, a remix album, and a greatest hits album. 8 albums total entire career, spanning nearly 30 years.AC/DC: 30 year careerT.N.T.High VoltageDirty Deeds Done Dirt CheapLet There Be RockPowerageIf You Want BloodHighway To HellBack In BlackFor Those About To RockFlick Of The Switch'74 JailbreakFly On The WallWho Made WhoBlow Up Your VideoThe Razors EdgeLiveBallbreakerBonfire Stiff Upper Lip19 albums. Instead of "AC/DC outsell Michael Jackson!!!" the title ought to read "Michael Jackson nearly outsells AC/DC despite only releasing a third as many albums!!!" but I guess that doesn't have as good of a ring to it. Why is it that you seem to forget about the 5 MJ albums pre Quincy Jones that you made sure to point out to me in another thread. Could it be because they didn't sell shit and they hurt yourcase n this thread?So change 8 MJ albums to 12 or 13 MJ albums. Shit you can even throw the Jackson 5 Bullshit in there, and make the number more like 26 albums, and MJ still won't crack the top ten.Enough with your excuses. AC/DC had only a fraction of the corperate support MJ had gotten. The same can be said for just about anyone else above MJ on that list. The guy had some catchy songs but lacked substance and soul. His "serious" songs were pretentious and souinded like they were written by a pre teen. With or with out his legal problems he'd be fading out as far as what new generations think of his music. With MJ songs what you see is what you get, nothing reveals itself with time or age, and they're going to be very dated soon enough. There's no hidden gems wit this guy either. You have huis tring of 7 or 8 huge singles and that's it. Unlike Elvis, who had his string of huge singles from the 50s and early 60s, but also had a plethora of gold with his live recordings and covers. MJ doesn't have that. As time goes by MJ will sell and less while Elvis, the Beatles, and Zeppelin sell more and more.
Quote from: Trauma on June 29, 2005, 08:38:01 PMWell no shit AC/DC has sold more total albums.Michael Jackson releases:Off The WallThrillerBadDangerousHistoryBlood On The Dance Floor (remix album)Invincible#1 hits6 albums, a remix album, and a greatest hits album. 8 albums total entire career, spanning nearly 30 years.AC/DC: 30 year careerT.N.T.High VoltageDirty Deeds Done Dirt CheapLet There Be RockPowerageIf You Want BloodHighway To HellBack In BlackFor Those About To RockFlick Of The Switch'74 JailbreakFly On The WallWho Made WhoBlow Up Your VideoThe Razors EdgeLiveBallbreakerBonfire Stiff Upper Lip19 albums. Instead of "AC/DC outsell Michael Jackson!!!" the title ought to read "Michael Jackson nearly outsells AC/DC despite only releasing a third as many albums!!!" but I guess that doesn't have as good of a ring to it. Why is it that you seem to forget about the 5 MJ albums pre Quincy Jones that you made sure to point out to me in another thread. Could it be because they didn't sell shit and they hurt yourcase n this thread?So change 8 MJ albums to 12 or 13 MJ albums. Shit you can even throw the Jackson 5 Bullshit in there, and make the number more like 26 albums, and MJ still won't crack the top ten.
Quote from: Shallow on June 30, 2005, 06:17:44 AMQuote from: Trauma on June 29, 2005, 08:38:01 PMWell no shit AC/DC has sold more total albums.Michael Jackson releases:Off The WallThrillerBadDangerousHistoryBlood On The Dance Floor (remix album)Invincible#1 hits6 albums, a remix album, and a greatest hits album. 8 albums total entire career, spanning nearly 30 years.AC/DC: 30 year careerT.N.T.High VoltageDirty Deeds Done Dirt CheapLet There Be RockPowerageIf You Want BloodHighway To HellBack In BlackFor Those About To RockFlick Of The Switch'74 JailbreakFly On The WallWho Made WhoBlow Up Your VideoThe Razors EdgeLiveBallbreakerBonfire Stiff Upper Lip19 albums. Instead of "AC/DC outsell Michael Jackson!!!" the title ought to read "Michael Jackson nearly outsells AC/DC despite only releasing a third as many albums!!!" but I guess that doesn't have as good of a ring to it. Why is it that you seem to forget about the 5 MJ albums pre Quincy Jones that you made sure to point out to me in another thread. Could it be because they didn't sell shit and they hurt yourcase n this thread?So change 8 MJ albums to 12 or 13 MJ albums. Shit you can even throw the Jackson 5 Bullshit in there, and make the number more like 26 albums, and MJ still won't crack the top ten.Alright, lets go by your numbers then, child. I'll kill you on your own shit.Lets say Michael DID have 13 albums. That means he sold 59.5 million with 13 albums, which averages out to 4.57 million copies per album.AC/DC have 19 albums, and have sold 66 million albums... which averages out to 3.47 million copies per album.Conclusion: He still outsells them, even with your inflated numbers, dumbass.
when you look at the sales for thriller a big chunk of the sales were from its initial release all the way to 85-86' ......which is fucking pheonominal don't get me wrong, but "Back in Black" and "led zeppelin IV" are selling consistantly through out the years if you look at the time of their releases they were double platnum selling albums, 5 years later 5 times platnum 10 years later 11 times, and ect. they just keep on selling.
Quote from: Trauma on July 01, 2005, 01:53:46 AMQuote from: Shallow on June 30, 2005, 06:17:44 AMQuote from: Trauma on June 29, 2005, 08:38:01 PMWell no shit AC/DC has sold more total albums.Michael Jackson releases:Off The WallThrillerBadDangerousHistoryBlood On The Dance Floor (remix album)Invincible#1 hits6 albums, a remix album, and a greatest hits album. 8 albums total entire career, spanning nearly 30 years.AC/DC: 30 year careerT.N.T.High VoltageDirty Deeds Done Dirt CheapLet There Be RockPowerageIf You Want BloodHighway To HellBack In BlackFor Those About To RockFlick Of The Switch'74 JailbreakFly On The WallWho Made WhoBlow Up Your VideoThe Razors EdgeLiveBallbreakerBonfire Stiff Upper Lip19 albums. Instead of "AC/DC outsell Michael Jackson!!!" the title ought to read "Michael Jackson nearly outsells AC/DC despite only releasing a third as many albums!!!" but I guess that doesn't have as good of a ring to it. Why is it that you seem to forget about the 5 MJ albums pre Quincy Jones that you made sure to point out to me in another thread. Could it be because they didn't sell shit and they hurt yourcase n this thread?So change 8 MJ albums to 12 or 13 MJ albums. Shit you can even throw the Jackson 5 Bullshit in there, and make the number more like 26 albums, and MJ still won't crack the top ten.Alright, lets go by your numbers then, child. I'll kill you on your own shit.Lets say Michael DID have 13 albums. That means he sold 59.5 million with 13 albums, which averages out to 4.57 million copies per album.AC/DC have 19 albums, and have sold 66 million albums... which averages out to 3.47 million copies per album.Conclusion: He still outsells them, even with your inflated numbers, dumbass.But he should outsell them as far as per album goes. Don't you get what I mean? He had the machine behind him the whole way. How many big time videos did AC/DC have? How many NBC premieres did their record label pay for? Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jim Carrey make more monet per movie than Johnny Depp or Dustin Hoffman, does that mean anything other than the latter two didn't get the main stream attention as the former? Maybe in your world Arnie is better than Johnny Depp, who knows?
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