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Interesting Muhammad Ali quote
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Captain on July 06, 2005, 09:32:45 AM ---but the thing is the truth always comes out in the end... how could all the professional boxers, presentators, sports related people all be fooled that ali is the greatest ? he has 4 dvd's out, including a movie dedicated to him... Ali is the greatest.
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Talk to pro boxing analysts, and boxers, and ask them if Ali is the undisputed best ever. Sure if you ask Will Smith, or some of those tools on ESPN and HBO sports you'll only here Ali. Was he great? yes, will some say he's the best? Sure. But most will not. Guys like Lewis and Marciano will be said a lot too. Robinson will always be known as hte best pounf for pund guy, but if you ask the current crop of dodos they'll still try and convince you it's Roy Jones. Tiger Woods is agreat golfer. If you ask the hosts of 106 and Park on BET they'll tell you he's the best ever. If youy ask real Golf journalists you'll hear a lot of Sman Snead, Jack Nicklaus, and Arnold Palmer.
--- Quote from: Captain on July 06, 2005, 09:34:36 AM ---i bet youre one of the people that think ice cube was a more talented rapper than pac...
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Actually I'm a Pac fan, but I'd have no problem with someone say Cube is better. Cube had some real gold with Ameikkkas Most and DC. Theext couple like Lethal Injection and Predator were good too. Pac had a couple mediocre albums to start then had a decent one in Thuglife and really broke out with Me Against the World. AEOM was great and so was Makaveli, but that's it. Like I said, I like Pac better, but it can be argued.
A better analogy would be calling Run DMC the first to bring out rap/rock when all they did was a crappier version of the same Aerosmith song. (same lyrics with a worse flow).
Calling Ali the best ever with out mentioning Joe Louis, is like calling Biggie the best ever (a title he gets by a lot of people) and forgetting about Rakim.
7even:
Shallow is an arrogant motherfucker in the subtle kind of way, but have to say homie knows what he talks about more often than the average homie
Thirteen:
--- Quote from: Trauma on July 05, 2005, 09:04:09 PM ---Oh, and for the record, I think the crowd was booing him for both reasons... 1. that he was a cocky black kid, unknown, who they viewed as a fluke, and who they thought was a loudmouth, and 2. that he had the audacity to change his name from Cassius to Muhammad. I will say on the part of the ring announcers, and the people giving the interview, they treated him with respect. The ring announcer referred to him as Muhammad Ali both times, and the interviewers fucked up three times, and called him Cassius, and everytime they apologized and recalled him Muhammad without a negative remark. Also, there was a famous interview with Howard Cossell where he refused to call him anything but Cassius, and Muhammad told him it was disrespectful, and Cossell apologized, and said he was right, and that he'd never call him that again, and that was that.
BTW, Ali is easily the greatest heavyweight to ever fight, there's no denying it by anyone with half a fucking mind or eyes that they can open without their own prejudices coming into play. I'd be the first one to give somebody credit over Ali, but the fact is there simply is no one in his league. You always hear the Joe Lous and Rocky Marciano (undefeated) bullshit, but come on, you've got to be joking. Ali's defeat of George Forman, and his legendary fights with Joe Frazier should be enough to convince anybody that he was literally a god in the ring.
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they booed him the first time when he was just a regular cocky black guy... you think all of a sudden they were gonna cheer for him the second time around? he could have changed his name to Brian Hirshel and been an agnostic jew and he would ahve still been booed because it was the 60's ad a cocky black guy came from no where to know out the champ and the proceded to claim he was the greatest
Shallow:
--- Quote from: 7even the Annoyed One on July 06, 2005, 11:32:43 AM ---Shallow is an arrogant motherfucker in the subtle kind of way, but have to say homie knows what he talks about more often than the average homie
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I try not to be arrogant but I was when responding to Captain. Captain, I apologize. My arrogance towards you was unwarranted. You respectfully disagreed with my opinion and I jumped all over you. It won't happen again, (unless you start it). Once again, I'm sorry.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Shallow on July 06, 2005, 09:48:47 AM ---
Actually I'm a Pac fan, but I'd have no problem with someone say Cube is better. Cube had some real gold with Ameikkkas Most and DC. Theext couple like Lethal Injection and Predator were good too. Pac had a couple mediocre albums to start then had a decent one in Thuglife and really broke out with Me Against the World. AEOM was great and so was Makaveli, but that's it. Like I said, I like Pac better, but it can be argued.
A better analogy would be calling Run DMC the first to bring out rap/rock when all they did was a crappier version of the same Aerosmith song. (same lyrics with a worse flow).
Calling Ali the best ever with out mentioning Joe Louis, is like calling Biggie the best ever (a title he gets by a lot of people) and forgetting about Rakim.
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Not only is Pac the greatest rapper ever, but you could take one of his posthumous releases like "R U Still Down" for example, and put it against all of Ice Cubes records combined, and Pac would still come out on top. And that was an album that never would have seen the light of day had it not been for Pac's death.
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