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What do you guys think about this column regarding Islamic Terrorism?
Thirteen:
--- Quote from: TheGhost on July 11, 2005, 02:04:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: . on July 11, 2005, 04:43:59 AM ---
--- Quote from: TheGhost on July 10, 2005, 03:26:33 PM ---The U.S. plays the double standard way too often. I'll give you one quick, prime example... when the Soviets occupied Afghanistan, and the Afghan opposition aka the Mujahideen fought back, what did America do? Did it label them an insurgency? Were they terrorists? No, they were freedom fighters, and we gave them guns and told them kill those fucking Soviets. Now that Americans are occupying Iraq and the Iraqis are trying to drive out the occupier, what are the labels they're given?
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how is that a double standard? Russia was trying to spread communism and fiddled with afghanistan's government while we helped muslims retake thier country
then fast forward and afghanistan is the home of many of the world's terrorist training camps after an attack on US soil
so in one we were helping freedom fighters and in the other they were terrorists
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LMAO... read that last line of yours... and tell me that ain't no double standard being played....
"fiddled with afghanistan's government"... true... the same way that America fiddles with Iraq's government, Iran's government, Afghanistan's government, etc....
during your "fast forward"... you forgot to mention that after defeating the Soviets and bringing the Soviet Union to an end, Afghanistan now had to cope with a war-torn country, poverty, no government, and just a bunch of donated weapons... so what you think is gonna happen? Everybody started fighting each other for power... few years of that and the Taliban were trained by the CIA and Pakistan's ISI... they come into Afghanistan, run shit, take over the whole place and put everyone in check... no more fuckin around... we're coo with that, we need them there so we can get that pipeline deal, without a government we can't.... they abuse some human rights but we don't give a fuck... Bin Laden, who helped the Afghans fight the Soviets during the Cold War is willing to help Afghans with reconstruction and he stays in the country...
So to sum shit up... if the U.S. wouldn't have just left Afghanistan after the Soviet War, there MIGHT NOT have been a 9/11... no1 can say that for sure, but it would've been a lot less likely, that's for sure... and to get back to my main point, if you can't see that the U.S. is playing a double standard then you're a fucking idiot.
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you're right, 9/11 probably didn't happen but you're the only idiot here
us giving weapons to a bunch of fighters trying to retake their country IS is an example of freedom fighters
leaving that country alone after that, and them training people to come here and crash planes into building to kill civilians IS a an example of terrorism
so how do we have a double standard? they just bit the hand that fed them...
please when you give an example, do some more research to try and make it airtight... it was too easy to break you down
Thirteen:
--- Quote from: TheGhost on July 11, 2005, 02:34:07 PM ---LMAO... first of all, Afghans didn't do 9/11... Afghans haven't done any sort of terrorist bombings, ever... so there goes your whole "they bit the hand that fed them" shit down the toilet...
So people trying to retake their countries are freedom fighters? I agree... my point is why doesn't this apply to Iraq? This ain't a double standard? LOLLLLL you fuckin retard go crawl back into your mom's ass...
I'm not even gonna tell you to do research... research would require basic knowledge at hand for you to get more information about it
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1. they trained most of the terrorists that participated in the attack and a few thousand or more other people that waged a jihad on americans... so there goes me owning you again
2. because the afghan fighters goals were to oust communism, most of their attacks were directed at getting rid of their current gov't and the russians. they called themselves the muhjideen or what ever and the world accepted that because that's what they were... freedom fighters
iraqi's kill everything. everything in iraq is a target. they're not targeting just the US and the current gov't they blow up kids, dogs, women, kittens to cause total chaos. they use mosques and hospitals for their bases to further disrupt shit. they call them selves al qaeda and various other terrorist organizations... the world accepts them as terrorists
you can call them friendly clowns for all i care, you're a moron anyways
Real American:
--- Quote from: TheGhost on July 11, 2005, 03:48:30 PM ---
1. Afghans trained the terrorists? LMAO.... you don't own shit... show me 1 piece of evidence that says "Afghans trained terrorists".... Bin Laden and his peepz were trained on Afghan soil, not by Afghans... you're honestly one of the most retarded people to grace this board.
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Afghanistan was the home base for Al-Quada. The Taliban allowed Al-Quada to recruit and train terrorists and plot attacks in Afghanistan. After 9/11 happened, the US asked the Taliban to hand over Bin laden who directed the attacks on New York and Washington. They also asked them to shut down the training camps. When the Taliban said no, the US had the right to invade Afghanistan and topple them.
Don Rizzle:
--- Quote from: TheGhost on July 11, 2005, 02:04:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: . on July 11, 2005, 04:43:59 AM ---
--- Quote from: TheGhost on July 10, 2005, 03:26:33 PM ---The U.S. plays the double standard way too often. I'll give you one quick, prime example... when the Soviets occupied Afghanistan, and the Afghan opposition aka the Mujahideen fought back, what did America do? Did it label them an insurgency? Were they terrorists? No, they were freedom fighters, and we gave them guns and told them kill those fucking Soviets. Now that Americans are occupying Iraq and the Iraqis are trying to drive out the occupier, what are the labels they're given?
--- End quote ---
how is that a double standard? Russia was trying to spread communism and fiddled with afghanistan's government while we helped muslims retake thier country
then fast forward and afghanistan is the home of many of the world's terrorist training camps after an attack on US soil
so in one we were helping freedom fighters and in the other they were terrorists
--- End quote ---
LMAO... read that last line of yours... and tell me that ain't no double standard being played....
"fiddled with afghanistan's government"... true... the same way that America fiddles with Iraq's government, Iran's government, Afghanistan's government, etc....
during your "fast forward"... you forgot to mention that after defeating the Soviets and bringing the Soviet Union to an end, Afghanistan now had to cope with a war-torn country, poverty, no government, and just a bunch of donated weapons... so what you think is gonna happen? Everybody started fighting each other for power... few years of that and the Taliban were trained by the CIA and Pakistan's ISI... they come into Afghanistan, run shit, take over the whole place and put everyone in check... no more fuckin around... we're coo with that, we need them there so we can get that pipeline deal, without a government we can't.... they abuse some human rights but we don't give a fuck... Bin Laden, who helped the Afghans fight the Soviets during the Cold War is willing to help Afghans with reconstruction and he stays in the country...
So to sum shit up... if the U.S. wouldn't have just left Afghanistan after the Soviet War, there MIGHT NOT have been a 9/11... no1 can say that for sure, but it would've been a lot less likely, that's for sure... and to get back to my main point, if you can't see that the U.S. is playing a double standard then you're a fucking idiot.
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america never defeated the soviets, it collapsed from within. its a common misconseption...
eS El Duque:
--- Quote from: King Techniec on July 10, 2005, 08:59:07 PM ---Ill wipe my ass with this fuckin clown and his article, but yall stupid as hell so aint no point
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--- Quote from: notorious^q8I on July 10, 2005, 05:24:37 PM ---To this day - to this day - no major Muslim cleric or religious body has ever issued a fatwa condemning Osama bin Laden.
WRONG!!!!
al azhar ( one of 2 major islamic bodies) condemed it
om al madae'en university in mecca, saudi arabia condemmed it and this IS the major fatwa source
i mean both of them bodies R the major sunni fatwa issuers
even in juma'a (friday) prayer in mecca around ka'aba the lecturer was condeming it and praying that god punishes whoever uses islam as an excuse to kill any human being
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SHit, even I KNEW THAT! But the dumb ass does have some points.
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