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The amount of ignorance in this board is sickening me
Maestro Minded:
One again a western country has been a victim of ‘Islamic terrorism'. What's funny is that as soon as a Muslim is involved, people immediately connect it to his religion. Their opinion is ‘it must be the scripts written in the Holy Qur'an that encourages that kind of act'. What people still don't realise is that a large part of the Holy Qur'an is taken from the Old Testament. Condemning the entire Islam is the same thing as condemning a big part of Christianity. Terrorism is not an act copyrighted my Muslims, as matter a fact, terrorism were acted upon by Christians long before Muslims even knew what it was. There are probably others, but the oldest terrorist organisation that I can remember for now is Ku Klux Klan, formed 1865, which was a Protestant Christian organization. The strange thing is that when we talk about KKK, the part of them being Christians is never mentioned. Them being Christians is not important. The issue here is them hating black people. The conclusion is that when it comes to KKK, instead of attacking their religion, people attack their actions and their racial beliefs.
There are other Christian terrorist groups such as "Christian Identity" who's responsible for abortion clinic bombings. Just like with KKK, "Christian Identity", is being criticized for their actions and not for their religion.
"The Order" (The Order of the Silent Brotherhood) was Nazi-related American terrorist organization active in the 1980s. FBI agent Wayne Mantis called The Order "the most organized group of terrorist-type people to have ever operated in the United States.". But that was off course before Al-Qaeda.
There's many other terrorist organizations connected to Christianity. Just to name a few:
"Irish Republican Army"
"The Violent Christian Identity Movement"
Lord's Resistance Army"
"God's Army"
"Operation Rescue"
People say that imams aren't quick enough to condemn the acts of for example Al-Quaeda. That may be true, but tell me, how many priests condemn the acts of Christian terrorist organization? How many priests try to explain for black people that KKK is not acting like real Christians should? Not A Single One!!! The fact that they're not acting upon their religion, even though they claim so is implicit. Why should it be otherwise for imams?
I see threads here with people writing "kill all Muslims", "ban all Muslims from western countries" with many other posters agreeing. WTF?
Just like with Christian terrorist organization, you need to attack the problem, not the religion. In my opinion the problem have to do with the American government and their way to constantly interfere in Middle Eastern politics. But I won't go there, this post is not to blame anybody, it is to ask for same treatment for everyone.
rafsta:
--- Quote from: Maestro Minded on July 12, 2005, 03:37:45 PM --- How many priests try to explain for black people that KKK is not acting like real Christians should? Not A Single One!!! The fact that they're not acting upon their religion, even though they claim so is implicit. Why should it be otherwise for imams?
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that statement right there forced me to disregard your entire post. MUSLIMS seem to be the BIGGEST problem at present... dont bullshit me that you cant relate muslims to terrorists, becasue all the latest terrorist bombings have been by MUSLIMS. it is obviously a fault in the religion, if the muslim terrorists can mis-interpret the qu'ran and think that they are fighting for 'allah'...
im not saying that all christians are perfect, but i dont remember the last time i saw extremist christians on news causing several explosions in major cities directed at innocent civilians...
im guessing you havent asked any priest what their thoughts on KKK are... in my mind i wouldnt even have to ask a priest, i know what the answer would be...
Fuck You, Pay Me:
--- Quote from: Captain on July 12, 2005, 04:43:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: Maestro Minded on July 12, 2005, 03:37:45 PM --- How many priests try to explain for black people that KKK is not acting like real Christians should? Not A Single One!!! The fact that they're not acting upon their religion, even though they claim so is implicit. Why should it be otherwise for imams?
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that statement right there forced me to disregard your entire post. MUSLIMS seem to be the BIGGEST problem at present... dont bullshit me that you cant relate muslims to terrorists, becasue all the latest terrorist bombings have been by MUSLIMS. it is obviously a fault in the religion, if the muslim terrorists can mis-interpret the qu'ran and think that they are fighting for 'allah'...
im not saying that all christians are perfect, but i dont remember the last time i saw extremist christians on news causing several explosions in major cities directed at innocent civilians...
im guessing you havent asked any priest what their thoughts on KKK are... in my mind i wouldnt even have to ask a priest, i know what the answer would be...
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How about if I ask a pastor? What would his answer be?
Maestro Minded:
--- Quote from: Captain on July 12, 2005, 04:43:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: Maestro Minded on July 12, 2005, 03:37:45 PM --- How many priests try to explain for black people that KKK is not acting like real Christians should? Not A Single One!!! The fact that they're not acting upon their religion, even though they claim so is implicit. Why should it be otherwise for imams?
--- End quote ---
that statement right there forced me to disregard your entire post. MUSLIMS seem to be the BIGGEST problem at present... dont bullshit me that you cant relate muslims to terrorists, becasue all the latest terrorist bombings have been by MUSLIMS. it is obviously a fault in the religion, if the muslim terrorists can mis-interpret the qu'ran and think that they are fighting for 'allah'...
im not saying that all christians are perfect, but i dont remember the last time i saw extremist christians on news causing several explosions in major cities directed at innocent civilians...
im guessing you havent asked any priest what their thoughts on KKK are... in my mind i wouldnt even have to ask a priest, i know what the answer would be...
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The Lord's Resistance Army (LRA), formed in 1987, is a rebel paramilitary group operating mainly in northern Uganda. As of May 2005, the group is engaged in an armed rebellion against the Ugandan government in what is now one of Africa's longest-running conflicts. It is led by Joseph Kony, who proclaims himself a spirit medium and apparently wishes to establish a state based on his unique interpretation of Biblical millenarianism
God's Army is an armed revolutionary group that opposes the military government of Myanmar and advocates a doctrine vaguely based on principles of Christianity. They are based in Thailand, and conducted a string of audacious guerrilla actions—for example, seizing the embassy of Myanmar in Bangkok—during the 1990s and early 2000s, which have been described as acts of terrorism.
IRA
-July 1990: Ian Gow, Conservative MP for Eastbourne and former Northern Ireland minister, killed by bomb at his Sussex home.
-February 1991: Three mortar bombs launched from across Whitehall at Downing Street during a Cabinet meeting. One explodes in the garden, but nobody injured.
-January 1992: Eight Protestant builders killed by a bomb on their way to work at an Army base near Omagh.
-December 1992: Series of IRA bombs throughout the province culminates in a blast in east Belfast which injures 27.
-March 1993: An IRA bomb hits Saturday shoppers in Warrington, Cheshire. Two children, Jonathan Ball and Tim Parry, killed.
-April 1993: IRA bomb in the City of London causes £350 million of damage.
-October 1993: Blast at a fish and chip shop on the Protestant Shankill Road, Belfast, kills 10 people, including two children.
-February 1995: Massive bomb at Canary Wharf in east London ends the IRA ceasefire that had been running since August 1994.
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The definition of a religious "liberating (terrorist) organisation" is that they actually think they're following God's words. So all the Christian terrorist organisations i stated "mis-interpret the Bible and think that they are fighting for 'God'"
What you're saying is that if i ask a priest, he probably will condemn KKK, and i agree. Bust most people want imams to condemn terrorist acts live on TV, after each attack. Islam has existed for around 1400 years. Islamic terrorism is a recent problem. Islamic terrorism on western countries is only a couple years old. How can you blame the religion, the Holy Qur'an haven't been modified since it was written.
Fuck You, Pay Me:
LMAO @ Captain-Ride-a-Cock...
yo answer my question bitch.... what would a pastor say if I ask him about let's say... the KKK ?
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