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Shallow:

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--- Quote from: white boy aka That Crazy Nucca on July 22, 2005, 07:46:48 AM ---oh my lord, i cant beleive wrestling still exists

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That's a dumb thing to say considering that Raw is the #1 rated show on cable television, & Smackdown! has sometimes put UPN ratings wise ahead of networks like Fox & ABC on Thursday nights.

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Well to be fair, Raw isn't really the number one cable show. I think Monk beats it every time, and the only time UPN beats anyone is when the other Networks are on reruns. If SD showed reruns then UPN wouldn't even beat WB on Thursdays.

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Yeah Raw is the #1 rated show on cable TV, this is coming from both TV guide & Neilson which is where the ratings come from. Monk doesn't get better ratings. And now that Raw is moving to USA, the ratings should increase. UPN beat networks like FOX & ABC as early as March.

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Do you actually look at the numbers. Monk does a consistent over 4 cable rating, and when ESPN has Football Raw doesn't even come close. ABC never loses to UPN and Smackdown has never beaten a new episode of the O.C. There's no point arguing this. I'm not trying to get on your case. I'm just stating facts. Check any weekly rating here; http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,272|||,00.html and you'll notice WWE has never come in 3rd on a Thursday.

Another pseudo fact WWE is promoting now is how they are about to pass Gun Smoke for most original episodes of a TV series with 636 episodes, yet they forget to mention the 7000+ episodes of the Tonight Show. The thousands of Eps of Day of Our Lives oe Y&R or even WCW Saturday Night which hand wellover 1000 shows. But the WWE will boast about this feat like it means something. Anytime WWE announcers brag about something on TV it usually isn't true.

Perfection:

--- Quote from: Shallow on July 22, 2005, 10:55:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: Perfection on July 22, 2005, 10:05:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on July 22, 2005, 11:17:49 AM ---
--- Quote from: Perfection on July 22, 2005, 11:00:17 AM ---
--- Quote from: white boy aka That Crazy Nucca on July 22, 2005, 07:46:48 AM ---oh my lord, i cant beleive wrestling still exists

--- End quote ---

That's a dumb thing to say considering that Raw is the #1 rated show on cable television, & Smackdown! has sometimes put UPN ratings wise ahead of networks like Fox & ABC on Thursday nights.

--- End quote ---


Well to be fair, Raw isn't really the number one cable show. I think Monk beats it every time, and the only time UPN beats anyone is when the other Networks are on reruns. If SD showed reruns then UPN wouldn't even beat WB on Thursdays.

--- End quote ---

Yeah Raw is the #1 rated show on cable TV, this is coming from both TV guide & Neilson which is where the ratings come from. Monk doesn't get better ratings. And now that Raw is moving to USA, the ratings should increase. UPN beat networks like FOX & ABC as early as March.

--- End quote ---

Do you actually look at the numbers. Monk does a consistent over 4 cable rating, and when ESPN has Football Raw doesn't even come close. ABC never loses to UPN and Smackdown has never beaten a new episode of the O.C. There's no point arguing this. I'm not trying to get on your case. I'm just stating facts. Check any weekly rating here; http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,272|||,00.html and you'll notice WWE has never come in 3rd on a Thursday.

Another pseudo fact WWE is promoting now is how they are about to pass Gun Smoke for most original episodes of a TV series with 636 episodes, yet they forget to mention the 7000+ episodes of the Tonight Show. The thousands of Eps of Day of Our Lives oe Y&R or even WCW Saturday Night which hand wellover 1000 shows. But the WWE will boast about this feat like it means something. Anytime WWE announcers brag about something on TV it usually isn't true.

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Did you not read what I wrote? I said that TV Guide & Neilson which is incharge of the ratings list the Raw as the #1 show on cable TV. & yeah there is no point to arguing this becuase you don't know the facts, plus UPN isn't in all markets, but the markets they're in Smackdown has helped UPN beat 2 of the 4 major networks. Not once did I say anything about the WWE saying that Raw was the highest rated show on cable TV. Not once did I say that.

You clearly don't like the WWE & love Monk. That's ok just don't let your biasness over look the facts. Also up here in Canada Raw gets higher ratings than hockey does or any sport for that matter.

Shallow:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

All the numbers come from Nielsen. Show me where it says Raw is number 1. Raw was number 1 at a time, and it may hit number 1 on the odd week, but when the other Networks are in full effect, Raw is not number 1.

http://www.nielsenmedia.com/ratings/cable_programs.html

There is an average summer week. Show me where Raw is number 1.

Also, we aren't talking about certain markets with Smackdown, we're talking about the fast nationals and final ratings. Yes UPN doesn't have all the markets, but even if it did it still probably wouldn't do any better. Meltzer did a report years ago that claimed no matter the availabilty wrestling fans always found a way to watch. If you wanted UPN anywhere in the country you could get it by telling your cable company, and if they don't have it you could get Direct TV, which at the basic level doesn't cost much.

P.S. moving to USA from Spike won't help the ratings just like moving from USA to Spike didn't hurt the ratings. The ratings willl changed based on the interest in the product. USA only is in like 2% more households.


And this has nothing to do with how much I like Monk. I haven't even seen the show, but I know what the facts are so I post them. If I said Larry Bird was taller than Michawel Jordan and you disagreed and we argued about it for an hour would that mean I hate Jordan and love Bird? No, it means I look at the factual numbers and make an obvious objective decision.

mrtonguetwista:
People actually watch Monk?  Fool looks too much like Greg Brady..hahaha

Bomb-A®:
i kinda agree with upn....that character seems to fuel anti-middle east hatred....it pissed me off everytime he'd come out and run his mouth and my arab friend would say..."this fuckin american is running his mouth and he prolly knows nothing about wats going on in the middle east"

and the wwe knows that this is a soft topic for americans...they have a responsibility not to fuel hatred like this...i know its just entertainment but there are lil kids watching this and they might not know that



peace

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