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Breaking News!!! London police shoot innocent man in head 5 times
Buhda:
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--- Quote from: BlockBuster aka KAIN on July 25, 2005, 03:28:57 PM ---Mauzip and Overseer = CWalker mentality in this thread.
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You are a moron. Tell me exactly what you would have done if you were a police officer in that situation. Remember, this guy was living in a building under surveillance for terrorist activity, wearing a long coat in the middle of summer, and running through the subway system ignoring police calls to stop just days after a series of terrorist attacks.
Are you going to tell me you that if you were a cop you wouldn't have shot him? What if he had been an actual terrorist and the cops had not shot him.......and he ended up setting off a bomb and killling hundreds of innocent people? You probably would be complaining about the cops not doing their job and killing a terrorist when they had the chance.
It is so easy to bad mouth the cops when they have to make split second decisions. But you can't second guess them. If you want to blame anyone for this man's death, put the blame where it really belongs: the terrorists who have created this whole situation.
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If I was a Police Officer in that situation I would have cuffed him after the other two cops had pinned him down instead of shooting him in the back like they did, that's some over the top actions.
Tell me what the difference would have been had the Police not shot him, what difference would it have made seeming they had him pinned down? Maybe the man would still be alive and their mistake with what he was up to found out, or maybe if he had have been a terrorist they would have been able to get information that might have helped save lives from further attacks, but instead they killed him and created a situation where people will now fear the police and be nervous around them and after all nerves can cause poeple to do things they wouldn't normally do and more innocent people will get killed.
It's not the Terrorists that have implemented policies of 'Shoot to Kill' and it is not them who are justifying these policies but it is them reaping the rewards of such policies, policies that meen certain groups within our societies now live in fear of the police, policies that encourage us not to trust those who don't look normal and to pry into the private lives of those who do dress and act like the majority, these policies result in people who aren't normal being treated different which mean's the free and open minded societies that we are supposedly protecting against the terrorists are no longer free and open minded. When you start taking away people rights and create division amongst people you help these terrorists achieve their so called goals, so if you believe that their reason for killing westerners is because of how free we are why are you then supporting actions that result in the lose of the most important freedom, the freedom to live?
This man had a right to live and that was taken away by politicians who are doing exactly what is needed to a) create a state of fear amongst people and b) achieve the so called goals of their enemy.
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Real talk
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It's not real talk. The reason why the British police is using this policy is because if a terrorist is still by conscience he can still let the bomb go off. That is why they don't shoot him in the legs or in the back.
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I might ber a bit slow on the uptake here so can you explain to me how him being dead is going to stop him detonating the bomb that didn't exist any more than him being hand cuffed by the police, if this was a bomb with a timer him being alive or dead wouldn't have made a difference, if it needed a button pushed or a trigger pulled he wouldn't have been able to do that when cuffed and being held down by two police officers so i'm not sure how exactly killing this man (and not just killing him but shooting him eights times which is imposible to justify because he would have been dead after one or two bullets in the head) could have prevented an explsosion anymore than detaining him as he was aldreay being pinned down by two police officers when he was shot.
So how was he going to let the bomb off once he was cuffed?
Now let's look at some off the reason's people are saying he was suspected or why he wasn't totally innocent.
He was in the country illegaly:
--- Quote from: BlockBuster aka KAIN on July 26, 2005, 06:23:36 AM ---As relatives and friends struggled to understand why Menezes would have run from the police, Straw and Amorim both said they understood the Brazilian electrician, who friends say had been in the country for three years, was living legally in Britain.
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He should have stopped when police told him to:
--- Quote from: BlockBuster aka KAIN on July 25, 2005, 07:37:14 AM ---Eyewitnesses reported that up to twenty police officers in plain clothes pursued Menezes into Stockwell station
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--- Quote from: BlockBuster aka KAIN on July 25, 2005, 07:37:14 AM ---Lee Ruston, who was waiting on the platform, said the police made no efforts to identify themselves
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He was wearing a big jacket:
--- Quote from: BlockBuster aka KAIN on July 25, 2005, 07:37:14 AM ---At the time of the shooting, the temperature in London was about 17C/62F [1], which is chilly enough that someone who grew up in a hot climate might well want to dress warmly.
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As for the jumping the ticket thing how many kids do that? should they all be shot?
No Compute:
The police done the right thing and it's as simple as that. There is no point to keep going on about it, sadly this guy is died (R.I.P.) by accident and that can't be changed. To blame the police is ludicrous they did what they thought was necessary and if you want to place the blame on them place equal blame on the victim and the terrorists.
7even:
--- Quote from: prominent on July 26, 2005, 03:40:41 PM ---The police done the right thing and it's as simple as that. There is no point to keep going on about it, sadly this guy is died (R.I.P.) by accident and that can't be changed. To blame the police is ludicrous they did what they thought was necessary and if you want to place the blame on them place equal blame on the victim and the terrorists.
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Tomorrow I gonna get drunk and shoot random people in their heads. They could be terrorists with bombs, I feel like my life is threatened. I'm defending myself. You can call me guilty, but place equal blame on the terrorists, they fuck with my mind. And the victims, too. They look so suspicous, wearing jackets and being not white. I should get off scott-free, like those naughty ass cops.
Don Rizzle:
i'd rather have a dead brazilian guy than a police force unable to eliminate potential threats to public safety
Thirteen:
--- Quote from: Fuck You, Pay Me on July 26, 2005, 05:47:32 PM ---"I'd rather have 50 Brits blown up on a few trains than go without a cheeseburger for a week"
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any cheeseburger?
cause a whopper is about 50 brits a big mac..maybe 30
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