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The Bible v The Qur'an
'EclipZe:
the bible is fucked up. People changed it 2 many times, man lol it's such bullshit... and the church omfg, I even used to be a acolite (dunno how u call that in english correct, those lil boys that help the pastors in the church :P ) and I believed all that shit, but I just realized 80% of it is bullshit, church's just a cult that tries to make money of ppl who believe in god.
cska-moscow:
Firstly, like I said before, the Qur'an is not a science book and therefore it does not reveal all science. Islam teaches us to seek knowledge and learn thing's for ourselves, if Allah/God simply gave us all knowledge and told us everything, then the world would not be like it is today. However, having said this, Dr Keith Moore examined the verses in the Qur'an extensively and I am sure if you have visited the link then you should know his finding's.
Like I said the Qur'an does not contain all science but merely a guidance. Therefore we cannot make conclusion's based on what it may/should say but on what it does say.
It say's in the Qur'an, there will be people whom when you show them evidence for the first time will know it is the truth and accept, but some may require you to show it 10 times and some 1000 times and still they will not accept it, the Qur'an refer's to this people as the blind, the deaf, the dumb and there will be no changing these people.
mauzip:
You know what people I hate the most? People that try to convert other people.
cska-moscow:
I am not here to convert anyone, I am simply putting my view across. You can make you're own decision, I am not going to hate or respect you any more whatever you choose to do, but I am just, in a sense, widening you're knowledge on Islam jsut the same as you can tell me more about Christianity and more on why you don't believe in a religion.
Shallow:
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I just assumed it was Infinte.
Anyway, I'll play along.
What unknown sciences did the Qur'an prove?
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Well firstly, the Qur'an contain's many scientific revelation's, that were presented to man, however they were not proven to be correct until modern time's due to technological advances which showed direct correlation to Qur'anic statement's and modern science.
Here are some:
1) The Qur'an said the world/earth was a spherical shape, human's did not know this until many hundered's of year's later.
2) The Qur'an say's the world, moon and sun has orbit's. Again, this was not known until many hundered's of year's later.
3) The Qur'an talks about the initial stages of an embryo, it say's the embryo look's like a clot intially and then a leach. Dr Keith Moore, head of embryology in Canada, checked this and prove it to be correct.
4) The Qur'an talk's about mountain's having deep underlying root's in the Earth, the mountain's act like stabilizer's to the Earth. Again this was not known until recently.
5) The Qur'an also states that the atmosphere has 7 different layer's. Due to technological advances this has been proven correct.
6) The Qur'an also states that everything is made in pair's. This was proven correct by Physicist, Prof. Paul Dirac, who siad "...every particle has its antiparticle of opposite charge... ...and the uncertainty relation tells us that pair creation and pair annihilation happen in the vacuum at all times, in all places."
7) The Qur'an also states that the Universe is expanding and because of modern Astronomy this has been proven correct.
8) The Qur'an states that the sea/ocean's can be set on fire, this has been proven correct as scientists have recently discovered that all of the present day oceans and some seas (such as the Red Sea and the Arabian Sea) are physically set on fire, while others (such as the Mediterranean, the Black and the Caspian Seas) are not.
9) The Qur'an states that it is best for a person to sleep on the right side, this has been proven correct as the smaller of the lung's does not then put pressure on the heart and this allows for quicker digestion of food. Also if someone slept on the left side, the heart would be under a lot of pressure from the bigger right lung.
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1) The Earth was known as spherical at least as far back as the Greeks. One Greek mathemitician correctly calculated the circumference of the Earth over 700 years before the Qur'an was written.
2) Again the Greeks had orbiting models. The popular one was everything orbiting around the Earth, but there was heliocentric model as well, but was discard by most.
I'll also bet I could find cultures that new about the other things as well.
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