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The Bible v The Qur'an
cska-moscow:
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--- Quote from: lazarus on August 17, 2005, 08:49:15 AM ---OK, The Qur'an is essentially the word of God. Just because it was written through someone does not mean it is not the word of God. For Example, if you told me to write something for you, it would be you're word but I just wrote it for you.
So essentially, the Qur'an is the word of God but was presented to Muhammad over a period of 23 year's in which it was then compiled into a book.
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so if someone came to you with a book they'd written and said it was the word of god you'd believe it?
--- Quote from: lazarus on August 17, 2005, 08:49:15 AM ---
This in a sense bring's me onto another point. You say the Qur'an is a man made invention, am I right ? But then how can it have many scientific facts that correlate with modern science, when it was written over 1400 year's ago by a supposedly illeterate and un-educated man ?
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yes its man made.
the thing about "facts" is.. thats what they are.. no matter where you are in history the facts remain the same as _science_ unlike the bible (as you pointed out it changed) cannot change.. since its a stone cold reproducable provable thing.
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Firstly, I am a bit confused as to what you wrote, that is in no way dis-respecting you. Fact's like you said have been around for all time and I am not doubting that. The thing that I am trying to say is that these "facts" that were in a book written over 1400 hundered year's ago, when there was little or no technological advance's, have been proven right by modern science 1400 year's later.
I mean the Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h) could have claimed these facts but no one would have believed him until they were proven that these fact's he said were indeed true.
Secondly, if someone came up to me and said they had a book and claimed it was the word of God, I would not believe them on the spot, I would read the book and see for myself, as did the Arabian's. Secondly, the reason that I believe the Qur'an is the word of god is because:
1) Like I said previously, it has scientific fact's only proven right until now, no one could have known these fact's over 1400 year's ago.
2) The Qur'an highlight's many issues for me and gives me a clear instruction in how to deal with them.
'EclipZe:
I don't believe the shit in those books ::) , just believe in god, fuck them books !
cska-moscow:
--- Quote from: EclipZe on August 17, 2005, 09:11:09 AM ---I don't believe the shit in those books ::) , just believe in god, fuck them books !
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You have you're own opinion and I have mine, it is good that you are conscious of a God but really you should not dis-credit you're opinion by calling the information in the book's "shit". After all more than 1 billion people follow the Qur'an, more than 2 billion people follow the Bible and so on. By saying the book's contain "shit", you are in sense, dis-respecting these people's belief's.
mauzip:
god... we got another infinite ::)
J Bananas:
any form of standardized religion which teaches u that it is the true word of God is full of shit. There are several facts about the natural world that contradict information presented in holy books. The idea of using a religion to express spirituality is just another form of slavery and a way to keep people in line. If u wanna believe in a higher creator, which there could have been, OK, but to put your faith in a book written by a human who claims to be the voice of God doesnn't sit right with me. Humans are too untrustable to put that much faith in. It leads to bad things, like starting wars and persecuting other people because they dont believe in your variation of how the world was created.
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