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A Clear Majority Agree CWalker is a Racist and Deserves to be Banned...
hotdamn:
--- Quote from: CWalker187 on August 31, 2005, 06:11:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: -JAMAL- on August 31, 2005, 03:41:34 PM ---Let me ask you a question, ignorant one... when you refer to Western Civilization are you talking about just North America and Europe, or are there other nations you're including?
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Western civilization pretty much refers to Europe, the US, Canada, Australia.......
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I understand there are different definitions, since the meaning has changed over time, and even today it has multiple meanings, but in this discussion we'll just stick to the inclusions of the term since the Cold War. If you want to talk about First World/Third World... developed nations and developing nations... then I have to inform you that Japan is a developed nation.
If you want to talk about capitalism/economies I could give you a list of countries you didn't include where a capitalist system is in use. In addition, I could name several countries where the per capita GDP is higher than that of certain countries in Europe. By the way, Israel is not in Europe, America, or Australia, so do you also want to include Israel in your list? (democracy, capitalism). Since you mentioned democracy... did you know that about 3 billion people in the world are living under "democracies" (by name), and about 1/3 of those are living in India? 1/6 of the world's population is living under a democracy in India.
Now we could also talk about the literal meaning of the word... "the West", which would also include Latin America. You obviously weren't using it in the literal sense then. The term is generally used to refer to richer nations, so some people have decided to use "the North" instead... but then again, Australia would not be on your list.
So let's see... you use the term, but make your own exclusions, so that only nations generally considered to be WHITE are included. I thought you don't try to be politically correct, so just say what you meant to say, Adolf. You are saying that white people are superior to other people, but you're afraid to admit that you agree with Hitler's beliefs. You're no American, buddy.
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Real American:
--- Quote from: -JAMAL- on September 01, 2005, 03:49:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: CWalker187 on August 31, 2005, 06:11:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: -JAMAL- on August 31, 2005, 03:41:34 PM ---Let me ask you a question, ignorant one... when you refer to Western Civilization are you talking about just North America and Europe, or are there other nations you're including?
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Western civilization pretty much refers to Europe, the US, Canada, Australia.......
--- End quote ---
I understand there are different definitions, since the meaning has changed over time, and even today it has multiple meanings, but in this discussion we'll just stick to the inclusions of the term since the Cold War. If you want to talk about First World/Third World... developed nations and developing nations... then I have to inform you that Japan is a developed nation.
If you want to talk about capitalism/economies I could give you a list of countries you didn't include where a capitalist system is in use. In addition, I could name several countries where the per capita GDP is higher than that of certain countries in Europe. By the way, Israel is not in Europe, America, or Australia, so do you also want to include Israel in your list? (democracy, capitalism). Since you mentioned democracy... did you know that about 3 billion people in the world are living under "democracies" (by name), and about 1/3 of those are living in India? 1/6 of the world's population is living under a democracy in India.
Now we could also talk about the literal meaning of the word... "the West", which would also include Latin America. You obviously weren't using it in the literal sense then. The term is generally used to refer to richer nations, so some people have decided to use "the North" instead... but then again, Australia would not be on your list.
So let's see... you use the term, but make your own exclusions, so that only nations generally considered to be WHITE are included. I thought you don't try to be politically correct, so just say what you meant to say, Adolf. You are saying that white people are superior to other people, but you're afraid to admit that you agree with Hitler's beliefs. You're no American, buddy.
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This is a dumb post. Obviously countries like Japan and India have democracies. But the fact is that democracy arose in Europe. Those countries patterned their governments on those in the west.
As I said before, democracy, capitalism, separation of church and state, human rights, freedom of speech, etc.....these are all concepts that arose in the west and are most widespread in the west. Some other countries may have them.........by following the model of western nations. Western civilization is the shining example for the whole world. So by pointing out other countries that are applying our concepts you are proving my point that our way of life is superior.
hotdamn:
First of all, you're the last person to be talking about dumb posts... especially when mine contains nothing but facts, rather than racist opinions. So whoever came up with something first is superior? LOLLLL yea... you're not dumb at all. Do you want a list of some things that "non-Western" societies came up with first, and were borrowed by "Western civilization"? Let's start with something you may be quite familiar with... the concept of 0... which Arabs came up with. Without this, we wouldn't be able to ascribe a number to your IQ. If you want more things borrowed by Western Civilization, let me know.
Guantanamo Bay = Human Rights? LOL. Shut the fuck up.
You mentioned human rights, and other societies applying "our concepts".... BUT... did you know that the first Human Rights Charter was declared by Cyrus the Great (Persian Empire)? LOLL JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP.. YOU ARE AN IGNORANT IDIOT.
AndrE16686:
--- Quote from: CWalker187 on August 31, 2005, 03:13:26 PM ---Ant is a typical left winger. They want to censor anyone who has a viewpoint that is different than their own. They do it all the time to conservatives on college campuses. I guess it is easier for Ant to get me banned then it is to prove me wrong.
In all seriousnous, saying that western civilization is superior to other cultures is just the brutal honest truth. Capitalism, democracy, separation of church and state, freedom of religion, frreedom of speech, human rights.......those are all western concepts and they are what make us better than China, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc. Stop with the nonsense that all societies are equal, man. You are living in a simplistic, politically correct dreamworld.
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True, Im currently doing first year Uni and lecturers take a very left wing appraoch to teaching, maybe because they are educated and although if you make a good conservative argument then you get heard. I agree the ideals of Western civilization are very progressive, but the ideals of equality, tolerance are universal to all civilizations. Remeber the concept of "Western civilization" is fairly ambiguous, for instance how is the concept of separation of church and state upheld in the U.S, religion still finds it's way into politics, frreedom of speech is not an absolute and capitalism in practice can often contradict human rights in the quest for profit. You cannot deal in absolutes.
rafsta:
haha... yeah CWALKER187 is a dumb slut... keep bangin crip fuck-rag. just by your stupid alias i dont understand how overseer, trauma or others even infinite can take any of your posts seriously... not only are you not black, but youre not a true american...
"rockin a motherfuckin flag doesnt make you a hero"
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