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CWalker...
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Crown on September 02, 2005, 08:15:33 AM ---The foundation of Western Society comes from the Pre-Roman and Pre-Islamic invaded Egypt which was populated by people who look more like the people of New Orleans than in Europe.
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Greece was already well established centuries before Alexander came into a war torn Egypt. That's not to say that Greece didn't learn from Egypt, or that Egypt didn't learn from Greece. It's also never really been proven how black Egyptians were in general. Afrocentrics say that Egyptians were as black as any other Africans, but they also say the Jews were as well. That doesn't explain to me how neither Egyptians nor Jews are black today, while the rest of Africa is black. Even in South Africa which has had a non black presence for hundreds of years still has black people, many may be light skinned but no one confuses them for arabs. So how can their be absolutely no black Egyptians or Jews (I don't mean converted Jews like Sammy Davis) today?
My best guess is that Egypt was primarily arab looking and they had close relations with black kingdoms and the land had been ruled by them at one point but even though some sculptures look to be black people, it is clear from the facial structure that many aren't.
rafsta:
--- Quote from: Shallow on September 02, 2005, 09:26:59 AM ---
--- Quote from: Crown on September 02, 2005, 08:15:33 AM ---The foundation of Western Society comes from the Pre-Roman and Pre-Islamic invaded Egypt which was populated by people who look more like the people of New Orleans than in Europe.
--- End quote ---
Greece was already well established centuries before Alexander came into a war torn Egypt. That's not to say that Greece didn't learn from Egypt, or that Egypt didn't learn from Greece. It's also never really been proven how black Egyptians were in general. Afrocentrics say that Egyptians were as black as any other Africans, but they also say the Jews were as well. That doesn't explain to me how neither Egyptians nor Jews are black today, while the rest of Africa is black. Even in South Africa which has had a non black presence for hundreds of years still has black people, many may be light skinned but no one confuses them for arabs. So how can their be absolutely no black Egyptians or Jews (I don't mean converted Jews like Sammy Davis) today?
My best guess is that Egypt was primarily arab looking and they had close relations with black kingdoms and the land had been ruled by them at one point but even though some sculptures look to be black people, it is clear from the facial structure that many aren't.
--- End quote ---
egyptians were brown like arabs... they hated on blacks and whites.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: coola on September 02, 2005, 11:08:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on September 02, 2005, 09:26:59 AM ---
--- Quote from: Crown on September 02, 2005, 08:15:33 AM ---The foundation of Western Society comes from the Pre-Roman and Pre-Islamic invaded Egypt which was populated by people who look more like the people of New Orleans than in Europe.
--- End quote ---
Greece was already well established centuries before Alexander came into a war torn Egypt. That's not to say that Greece didn't learn from Egypt, or that Egypt didn't learn from Greece. It's also never really been proven how black Egyptians were in general. Afrocentrics say that Egyptians were as black as any other Africans, but they also say the Jews were as well. That doesn't explain to me how neither Egyptians nor Jews are black today, while the rest of Africa is black. Even in South Africa which has had a non black presence for hundreds of years still has black people, many may be light skinned but no one confuses them for arabs. So how can their be absolutely no black Egyptians or Jews (I don't mean converted Jews like Sammy Davis) today?
My best guess is that Egypt was primarily arab looking and they had close relations with black kingdoms and the land had been ruled by them at one point but even though some sculptures look to be black people, it is clear from the facial structure that many aren't.
--- End quote ---
egyptians were brown like arabs... they hated on blacks and whites.
--- End quote ---
Actually there was a time when Kush had taken over Egypt in 800 or 900 BC, so the rulers at that time were almost definately black, and many argue that it was once black before that. There isn't any concrete proof of anything, just archeological stuff.
rafsta:
--- Quote from: Shallow on September 02, 2005, 11:44:54 AM ---
--- Quote from: coola on September 02, 2005, 11:08:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on September 02, 2005, 09:26:59 AM ---
--- Quote from: Crown on September 02, 2005, 08:15:33 AM ---The foundation of Western Society comes from the Pre-Roman and Pre-Islamic invaded Egypt which was populated by people who look more like the people of New Orleans than in Europe.
--- End quote ---
Greece was already well established centuries before Alexander came into a war torn Egypt. That's not to say that Greece didn't learn from Egypt, or that Egypt didn't learn from Greece. It's also never really been proven how black Egyptians were in general. Afrocentrics say that Egyptians were as black as any other Africans, but they also say the Jews were as well. That doesn't explain to me how neither Egyptians nor Jews are black today, while the rest of Africa is black. Even in South Africa which has had a non black presence for hundreds of years still has black people, many may be light skinned but no one confuses them for arabs. So how can their be absolutely no black Egyptians or Jews (I don't mean converted Jews like Sammy Davis) today?
My best guess is that Egypt was primarily arab looking and they had close relations with black kingdoms and the land had been ruled by them at one point but even though some sculptures look to be black people, it is clear from the facial structure that many aren't.
--- End quote ---
egyptians were brown like arabs... they hated on blacks and whites.
--- End quote ---
Actually there was a time when Kush had taken over Egypt in 800 or 900 BC, so the rulers at that time were almost definately black, and many argue that it was once black before that. There isn't any concrete proof of anything, just archeological stuff.
--- End quote ---
ohh... because i was under the impression they were brown, because of their canes n shit... they had little sculptures of black and white people bent backwards on the cane, symbolising slavery...
hotdamn:
"Western Civilization", by CWalker's definition, has adopted a lot from other "non-Western" societies... including Egypt, the Middle East (especially Assyria/Mesopotamia/Persians/Arabs during Islam's Golden Age), India, China, etc.... there is no denying that. So when CWalker says that those who come up with something first are superior (which I think is fucking retarded), then he's actually contradicting his original argument... that WHITE people are superior to non-whites. Fucking pussy is too scared to say what he really means.
edit: He's not a true American
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