It's May 04, 2024, 08:21:12 AM
JML lost another debate.
You gotta have a minimum IQ of 75 to come in this thread....mods...erase this chumps post
my throat hurts, its hard to swallow, and my body feels like i got a serious ass beating.
The day you can prove that western culture is not superior is the day you win that debate, moron.
Quote from: Shallow on September 16, 2005, 07:01:34 PMQuote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on September 16, 2005, 04:55:57 PMActually I didn't take your posts out of context, since I quoted them directly, and/or addressed everything within your posts. I even addressed your clarifications, so don't bring that."We were just arguing different things and misconceiving what the other meant."All I can say is: Speak for yourself.Once again, have a good day. Save yourself the trouble... you've been done... and since you admitted how stubborn you are, there really is no point for me to reply to you since you reach for straws due to your stubbornness.But you are ignoring my clarifications. When I said it's hard to convert Christians and it's easy to grow when the country is Christian as I meant and stated that I was talking about devout Christians and forceful conversion.When I say we are arguing different things I meant I was under the impression you were speaking from the point of view that Islam is better and that's why it didn't need forceful conversion, which I was wrong to assume, and you thought I was associating every bad thing Muslim conquerers did with Muhammad and him being a part of it, which you were wrong to asume.No I didn't ignore any of your classifications. I addressed every argument you made, I addressed your clarifications, and I addressed the part where you made your corrections.You said it's hard to convert Christians with FORCE... I said I agree, which would back my argument. You said it's easy to grow when the country is Christian... my response was: "I know the growth rate works in percentages, and you're missing the whole point, even though I've stated it time and time again. The point I was making by saying that more people are converting from Christianity to Islam each year in America/Europe is that: Don't you think the same could've been true back then in lands where the majority of the population was Christian?"Ok, so you admit that you had wrong assumptions, I can accept that... but no I did not at any point believe that you were associating every bad thing Muslim conquerors did with Mohammed... I even used your quote at the beginning where you made the reference to the Roman Empire... and I specifically said "keep this in mind throughout the argument".
Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on September 16, 2005, 04:55:57 PMActually I didn't take your posts out of context, since I quoted them directly, and/or addressed everything within your posts. I even addressed your clarifications, so don't bring that."We were just arguing different things and misconceiving what the other meant."All I can say is: Speak for yourself.Once again, have a good day. Save yourself the trouble... you've been done... and since you admitted how stubborn you are, there really is no point for me to reply to you since you reach for straws due to your stubbornness.But you are ignoring my clarifications. When I said it's hard to convert Christians and it's easy to grow when the country is Christian as I meant and stated that I was talking about devout Christians and forceful conversion.When I say we are arguing different things I meant I was under the impression you were speaking from the point of view that Islam is better and that's why it didn't need forceful conversion, which I was wrong to assume, and you thought I was associating every bad thing Muslim conquerers did with Muhammad and him being a part of it, which you were wrong to asume.
Actually I didn't take your posts out of context, since I quoted them directly, and/or addressed everything within your posts. I even addressed your clarifications, so don't bring that."We were just arguing different things and misconceiving what the other meant."All I can say is: Speak for yourself.Once again, have a good day. Save yourself the trouble... you've been done... and since you admitted how stubborn you are, there really is no point for me to reply to you since you reach for straws due to your stubbornness.
Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on September 16, 2005, 08:50:23 PMQuote from: Shallow on September 16, 2005, 07:01:34 PMQuote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on September 16, 2005, 04:55:57 PMActually I didn't take your posts out of context, since I quoted them directly, and/or addressed everything within your posts. I even addressed your clarifications, so don't bring that."We were just arguing different things and misconceiving what the other meant."All I can say is: Speak for yourself.Once again, have a good day. Save yourself the trouble... you've been done... and since you admitted how stubborn you are, there really is no point for me to reply to you since you reach for straws due to your stubbornness.But you are ignoring my clarifications. When I said it's hard to convert Christians and it's easy to grow when the country is Christian as I meant and stated that I was talking about devout Christians and forceful conversion.When I say we are arguing different things I meant I was under the impression you were speaking from the point of view that Islam is better and that's why it didn't need forceful conversion, which I was wrong to assume, and you thought I was associating every bad thing Muslim conquerers did with Muhammad and him being a part of it, which you were wrong to asume.No I didn't ignore any of your classifications. I addressed every argument you made, I addressed your clarifications, and I addressed the part where you made your corrections.You said it's hard to convert Christians with FORCE... I said I agree, which would back my argument. You said it's easy to grow when the country is Christian... my response was: "I know the growth rate works in percentages, and you're missing the whole point, even though I've stated it time and time again. The point I was making by saying that more people are converting from Christianity to Islam each year in America/Europe is that: Don't you think the same could've been true back then in lands where the majority of the population was Christian?"Ok, so you admit that you had wrong assumptions, I can accept that... but no I did not at any point believe that you were associating every bad thing Muslim conquerors did with Mohammed... I even used your quote at the beginning where you made the reference to the Roman Empire... and I specifically said "keep this in mind throughout the argument". Then why did you keep bringing up later conquests of Muslims that had nothing to do with Muhammad and ask me if I thought he was apart of them? You went back and forth and you can't deny that. You brought up later conquests like Spain and India then criticized me for talking about them when it had nothing to do with Muhammad."The point I was making by saying that more people are converting from Christianity to Islam each year in America/Europe is that: Don't you think the same could've been true back then in lands where the majority of the population was Christian?"No I don't because Christian society is far more open these days. I'm willing to bet that the converts these days are mostly non practicing and/or protestants. Back then the church had a much stronger rule and it was accepted by society to convert, which is what it's like now in Islamic society. Catholism is far more controlling of a Christian religion now and I'll bet there are way less catholics converting than protestants. I feel that if Islamic societies deemed it acceptable to convert then there would be just as many Muslims converting as there are Christians converting (per capita). If you disagree, I'd like to hear why?
So you explain it to me. Why don't Muslims convert to Christianity too often? I think because the religion is cemented in them more so than Christians.
Quote from: Shallow on September 16, 2005, 10:58:39 PMSo you explain it to me. Why don't Muslims convert to Christianity too often? I think because the religion is cemented in them more so than Christians.Because most Muslims countries such as Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan make it illegal. Why? Because they are scared of competition from other religions. That is why they make it illegal for Christians to preach and for Muslims to convert.Muslim nations could really learn alot about freedom and tolerance from Christians.
CWalker, before you try to join the conversation you should make yourself aware of what it's about. He's talking about Islamic society in general, and specifically in Western nations. And don't worry CWalker, Muslim nations have learned a lot about freedom and tolerance from the heroic Americans at Abu Gharib. LOL fucking retard get the fuck outta this thread and go look at some interracial porn.
Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on September 17, 2005, 10:47:56 AMCWalker, before you try to join the conversation you should make yourself aware of what it's about. He's talking about Islamic society in general, and specifically in Western nations. And don't worry CWalker, Muslim nations have learned a lot about freedom and tolerance from the heroic Americans at Abu Gharib. LOL fucking retard get the fuck outta this thread and go look at some interracial porn.In all seriousness, why do you think Muslims are so intolerant and discriminatory towards religious minorities? Why can't they just give these groups equal rights?Just follow the Christian example of equality for all and secularism and there wouldn't be any problems.