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NINTENDO UNVEILS REVOLUTION CONTROLLER
Trauma-san:
--- Quote from: Overseer on September 27, 2005, 07:30:40 AM ---
you're misinformed if you think they use "normal" cd's in the "normal" fashion.. put a xbox game in a dvd drive you wont read jack shit.
xbox games _have_ to be ripped over a network via the xbox drive itself..
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Not to mention he's full of shit anyways. Every seen a hacked Gamecube? Me neither. While there is a 'mod chip' per se, you can't use it to play bootlegged copied games. Nintendo made it so fucking hard, that they still haven't figured out ways to copy the games... if you're a manufacturer making a gamecube game, one thing you can be sure of is that there's no fucking way it's gonna be copied.
Don Seer:
exactly.. non standard media = people cant do shit unless the console itself is compromised...
for gamecbue you cant create disks like you can for the xbox.. so you're stuffed
i expect xbox360 to be more secure. microsoft as you pointed out lost money with xbox..
but they _meant_ to .. the loss is seen as the cost of entering the market
they put the console together out of near PC standard bits.
xbox360 has this dual shared memory area which developers will love (wont go there again)
which sony dont have.. xbox360 also as the same unrivalled dev facilities as xbox.. (and PCs..)
which sony also dont have.. MS are software guys gone hardware.. they know what the
people writing for the console's need.. tbh
Trauma-san:
I really think XBox will be the clear winner in the next generation (with the small fanboy part of me hoping maybe Nintendo will pull off a miracle). Everybody keeps comparing Nintendo to Sega, which is fucking rediculous. Nintendo has never been Sega, they've made money in every single thing they've ever done, from back in the 70's when they started making arcade games. Hell, even making fun of Sega is fucked up because they still rule the Arcade world in Japan. Sega is to this day one of the biggest game companies in the world.
Shallow:
Trauma, don't be stupid. First of all quarters mean nothing if the fiscal year is out of the red, and secondly, Sony losing any money has more to do with the crap going on in the video department. Sony games is still going strong, and so is sony as a whole. Playstation is doing fine, and so is Gameboy Advance (the main reason Nintendo keeps numbers up every year).
"That said, the company behind the PlayStation Portable announced that its group net profit for the fiscal year that ended March 31, 2005, rose by 85.1 percent compared to the previous year. Its FY2004 net profit totaled 163.84 billion yen ($1.54 billion), compared to 88.51 billion yen ($833 million) in FY2003."
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/04/27/news_6123076.html
Sony made 1.5 billion last fiscal year. That's more than Nintendo made.
(for the record. I'm pretty sure Nintendo posted a net loss once back in October of 2003).
It's crazy to think they'll fall to number 2 or 3 because of how much of a lead they already have. Like I said before; if X Box and Nintendo double their sales and PS3 cuts it's sales in half from PS2 then PS3 will still be number 1. Now that is a big if. Back in '95 when PSX started getting strong there were a whole bunch of kids who just started getting into video games in a serious level. Now those kids are older and they still like their playstation. Factor in all the older gamers that want games that aren't made for kids, and the fact that video game companies want the biggest market possible.
Most would rather make a game for an easy to pirate system that sells 90 million than for a hard to pirate system that sells 20 million. The number of people with out modded PS2s is still way higher then the number of people with XBoxes or Game Cubes.
So far Trauma I'm not wrong about DS. What's it sold, 5 million copies? Compared to other Gameboys it's way down. GBA-60 million. GB- over 100 mil. I never said anything about Micro, or Nintendogs. I never said childish games can't sell, but in today's market you cannot win the over all game wars with them.
Seer- like I said above security is overrated if you can't sell systems. In fact, making it easy to hack sells systems. There's no point fighting it. If companies just made good games that are somewhat challenging and aren't over and done with after a weeek and reasonably priced then pirating wouldn't be half the issue it is.
And finally Trauma- If I could snap my fingers and make this war between Sega nd Nintendo again I would, but I can't so I have to deal with what's real, and what's real is both PSX and PS2 are the two highest selling home consoles ever. Higher than NES, higher than SNES. To think that you can fall from a strong number 1 to number 3 is bullshit.
I'll make you a deal. When Sony is number 1 come January 2007 you have to go out and buy Bruce Springsteen's 30th Anniversary Born To Run box set and listen to it in full and watch the DVDs, and if Sony is in number 2 then I'll buy a Revolution and send you one so you can have an extra. If Sony is in number 3. I'll buy 3 revolutions and send them to members of your family. Deal?
(If I missed any reponses to Seer or Trauma, let me know. I'm not puposely ignoring anything).
Trauma-san:
But I'm purposely ignoring you, Like i'm gonna read all that bullshit.
Lesse, I caught 'Trauma don't be stupid quarters don't mean shit" blah blah blah... well, when Nintendo makes money EVERY quarter, and Xbox loses money... EVERY QUARTER, I think, yes, that that's significant. When you're saying the DS is gonna be a flop, but yet it drives Nintendo on to even more profits... I think, Yes, that's significant.
By the way, why don't you just go ahead and send me a grand for this quarter, since you don't think it's important. Lemme know if that works for you, and I'll shoot you my paypal address.
Didn't have time to waste reading the rest of your post.
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