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WHO HERE IS WILLIN TO GIVE MONEY TO KATRINA VICTIMZ? POLL
King Tech Quadafi:
nah man
Sikoticâ„¢:
I put my ends in. Gotta help those in need.
J Bananas:
is there just a high concentration of jews here or what? your excuses for your greed are a fucking joke.
Trauma-san:
It's not the government's responsibility to take care of these people. People shouldn't take things like that for granted.
The government is horrible at *EVERYTHING* it does. It does *NOTHING* good. There isn't 1 good government program that has ever worked well. Anything the government touches, turns to shit. With that said, why would you want them involved in any aspect of your life?
My entire relationship with the government is me trying to stay the fuck out of their way.
Human beings are brilliant loving kind strong intelligent and inspired by design. The government's job is to protect human beings, and stay the fuck out of their lives so they can be brilliant loving kind strong intelligent and inspired without any hinderances. The government has no business handing people money.
I won't get much agreement on THIS board, but what we're talking about with these people in need is charity. These people need charity. Charity comes from the soul, the soul is connected to God. The people who need to help these people are the churches, and the individuals in the country who out of the goodness of their souls want to help out.
Since everyone is forced to pay 30 percent of their paycheck to the government, though, these people with good souls largely can't help who they want to, because they're too busy using the 70 percent the government leaves them to take care of their own.
Think about this. Look at the job the government does... with ANYTHING. Then think about what we're paying them. Lets run it down.
You work, and make money. Your boss pays taxes on any profit you produce.
You get a paycheck, but the government takes out taxes before you ever even see the money.
Anything you buy with the money you have left, you pay taxes on (even food).
Anything you save, you pay taxes on the interest you earn in savings.
Anything you buy of any value (a house, a car)... you pay taxes on, YEARLY, in the form of "personal property tax". You're not allowed to own anything valuable, or you have to pay the government a tax for the priveledge of owning personal property.
When you die, the government gets a big chunk of whatever money you had left, in the form of an estate tax.
The government's bullshit, they're fucking you over and over and over and taking and taxing your money time after time, but yet people wanna bitch about gas companies? Look @ the fucking government, they take all your money and do nothing but get in the way of what you'd be doing if you were left to your own, natural instinct.
J @ M @ L:
^ I'm assuming you consider yourself a libertarian/classical liberal....?
I don't know how much you're getting into it or to what extent you're speaking when you say there shouldn't be taxes or intervention of any sort... so this is based on my assumption of what you're implying...
I agree with some of the ideals, but only to a certain extent... from an economic standpoint. For example, I believe there should be government intervention to prevent collusion (monopolies). I also don't think it's in the public's best interest if the utility companies were privately owned. You see... there are also certain things that ONLY the government would provide.... the only time individuals would do so, is if there was a benefit or profit... and for things like roads, lighthouses, etc.. that won't hold true.
I do agree with what you stated about charity though... I would donate, but then I feel like I already donated with my tax money... instead of assuming that my money was used to fund Israeli military operations, I'll just assume that this year my money was used to help the victims...
I'm still studying the economic principles of taxation, the government's role, trade, etc... but maybe the government could fund the necessary things (to protect) and necessities that private individuals would have no benefit in providing (roads, etc).. with the money from trade..? I'm just kinda making a guess here.. it may be a little far-fetched....
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