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Should we make a new section for Laker fans?
Don Jacob:
^comparing jordan on the wizards and kobe last year isn't a bad example. age shouldn't matter for a leader...many consider shaq washed upbut his leadership skills helped that team. NIK made a good point, just cuz you got a great player/leader on your team doesn't mean you can dump a bunch of players in there with him and they should win every game, remember jordan didn't do anything til his early 30's late 20's , you have to have players that COMPLIMENT a great player in order to have a great team . that's why the lakers traded and dismantled everyone from their line up last year, cuz they didn't have shaq who they were building around and had to start all over and build around kobe.
Javier:
You also need an elite coach.
SGV:
--- Quote from: Mr. Brown on October 18, 2005, 01:16:39 PM ---^comparing jordan on the wizards and kobe last year isn't a bad example. age shouldn't matter for a leader...many consider shaq washed upbut his leadership skills helped that team. NIK made a good point, just cuz you got a great player/leader on your team doesn't mean you can dump a bunch of players in there with him and they should win every game, remember jordan didn't do anything til his early 30's late 20's , you have to have players that COMPLIMENT a great player in order to have a great team . that's why the lakers traded and dismantled everyone from their line up last year, cuz they didn't have shaq who they were building around and had to start all over and build around kobe.
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Jordan hadn't played for a few years, he was rusty. How is that even comparable?
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: SGV on October 18, 2005, 11:49:07 AM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 18, 2005, 11:43:52 AM ---
LMAO...Everyone doesn't promise their team and the WHOLE city an NBA championship, unless they can act upon their promises. Usually, at most, a player will claim his team has a good shot, but never actually promise it like Shaq did. The Lakers were a fucking brand new team, stop making up shit. "They played together in the past". LOL, so Chris Mihm, Chucky Atkins, and Jumain Jones played together for one season before on a different team. Caron Butler, Brian Grant, and Lamar Odom also played together for 1 season before on a different team. Do you honestly believe that dumping them all together onto a roster with the best returning player on that team (other than Kobe) being Slava Medvadenko makes the team a familiar one? And what about Rudy-T and his quick departure, completely fucking up the plan Lakers had for the season, and sending them on a downhill tumble? And to blame the coach is ridiculous? Listen, no one is blaming the coach, but it's pretty obvious that a coach makes a significant difference, and playing without a head coach will harm your team greatly. That's common sense. Kobe can do so much, I mean, Jordan couldn't "lead" the Wizards to the playoffs in the EAST for 2 consecutive years, and he's supposed to be the greatest ever. But all that doesn't mean anything. Jordan never made Bill Wennington matter. LMAO. Chris Mihm is twice the player Bill Wennington ever was, but that has nothing to do with Kobe or Jordan...You need to know basketball in order to speak basketball. Unfortunately, you're only speakin.
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Playing together for one season makes a difference. Bringing them together with (Who you guys big up as the greatest player) Kobe, how could they not jell together. It's the leader's responsibility to bring everyone together. He didn't do that. And yea, I'm sure Rudy T leaving didn't help, but they weren't doing well up until then anyway, so it wouldn't have mattered. With or without Rudy T, they weren't gonna do good. Jordan couldn't lead the Wizards cuz he was OLD. He was washed up. Kobe is still in his 20's and his prime. HORRIBLE comparison, and you claim I don't know shit.
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Being able to lead your team has nothing to do with your age. In fact, a veteran Jordan should be even BETTER at leading his team. You are stupid. Up until Rudy-T left, the Lakers WERE doing good. They were a few games above .500, well into the playoffs. They were in the process of "jelling", as you would put it. Then he left and everything collapsed. Once again, you DON'T know shit.
SGV:
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 18, 2005, 02:54:51 PM ---
Being able to lead your team has nothing to do with your age. In fact, a veteran Jordan should be even BETTER at leading his team. You are stupid. Up until Rudy-T left, the Lakers WERE doing good. They were a few games above .500, well into the playoffs. They were in the process of "jelling", as you would put it. Then he left and everything collapsed. Once again, you DON'T know shit.
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Jordan hadn't played for a few years, how is it even the same? If that was Jordan in 1995, then you have a case. Otherwise you're comparing two different things. And, I'm the stupid one? LOL. Kobe being this great player, the team should've been well above .500. Brian Grant and Lamar Odom are good players, so he had some good support. If they hadn't jelled by then, they were never gonna jell (who does that fall on? The leader.) Rudy T leaving did make an impact, but as a leader, Kobe should've kept everyone together. He didn't. They went to shit. Once again, you're just sending out insults since you can't prove anything.
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