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Should we make a new section for Laker fans?
PLANT:
The question was........"Do we need a new section for Laker fans" ???
But anyways........Kobe is a great one on one player, but without Shaq, he aint winning no championships. Period. You can cry all you want about how his team sucks etc. but at the end of the day, hes not making the players around him better either.
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: SGV on October 18, 2005, 03:54:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 18, 2005, 02:54:51 PM ---
Being able to lead your team has nothing to do with your age. In fact, a veteran Jordan should be even BETTER at leading his team. You are stupid. Up until Rudy-T left, the Lakers WERE doing good. They were a few games above .500, well into the playoffs. They were in the process of "jelling", as you would put it. Then he left and everything collapsed. Once again, you DON'T know shit.
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Jordan hadn't played for a few years, how is it even the same? If that was Jordan in 1995, then you have a case. Otherwise you're comparing two different things. And, I'm the stupid one? LOL. Kobe being this great player, the team should've been well above .500. Brian Grant and Lamar Odom are good players, so he had some good support. If they hadn't jelled by then, they were never gonna jell (who does that fall on? The leader.) Rudy T leaving did make an impact, but as a leader, Kobe should've kept everyone together. He didn't. They went to shit. Once again, you're just sending out insults since you can't prove anything.
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How is it even the same? Leadership skills don't wear off. You don't lose the ability to lead like you lose the ability to run or jump with age. My point is, you can't put someone in a horrible sitaution and expect them to turn it into something good...Brian Grant did not earn his lunch money. He WAS a good player, last year he couldn't stay on the court for more than 15 minutes at a time. The team was still like 6th or 7th in the west when Rudy-T departed though, but everything was downhill from then. Kobe isn't a coach, I mean as much as he tried to be, and he basically was the head coach, it's impossible to do it on your own. Stop with the "prove it" bullshit, it's very stupid. You obviously have no clue what you're talking about.
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: PLANT on October 18, 2005, 04:01:45 PM ---You can cry all you want about how his team sucks etc. but at the end of the day, hes not making the players around him better either.
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Really? That explains why Caron Butler, Chris Mihm, Jumain Jones, Chucky Atkins, Tierre Brown, and others improved from the previous season while playing with Kobe. Kobe also averaged a career high in assists. But you can only do so much...
Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It:
--- Quote from: PLANT on October 18, 2005, 04:01:45 PM ---
But anyways........Kobe is a great one on one player, but without Shaq, he aint winning no championships. Period. You can cry all you want about how his team sucks etc. but at the end of the day, hes not making the players around him better either.
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man,shut the fuck up...first of all,a lot of those guys had career #'s,but that doesn't matter b/c they suck,you can't make players do things they can't do,all you could do is give them the opportunity...it's not kobe's foult c.migm has butterfingers or c.atkins can't make a wide open 3 pointer,or butler doesn't know how to cut to the basket,or make odom play "D" the same with chucky atkins..thee's only so much you could do..
when you rebuild,you have to up-grade every year,and lil by lil you'll see the "TEAM" get better and the superstar look better
Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It:
--- Quote from: TeeRaySix9Teen on October 18, 2005, 10:31:34 AM ---
--- Quote from: Lakers Run L.A on October 18, 2005, 02:43:17 AM ---yeah b/c you're "leecher faggot" contribute to this forum instead of just saying stupid stuff
and lol @ you faggots getting owned..now it's come to telling me i'm a lil boy and i need to get a girl and to stop riding kobes nuts :loser: :loser:
like i said ,,you guys are the real dick ryders...no one said shaq wasn't dominent and the best b-ball player @ that time.that has nothing to do with why we hate shaq,Laker fans don't even argue who was responsible for those championships,(We know it takes a team effort to win championships,unlike you morons)you guys are the ones who always bring that up when people are saying some real stuff about shaq..that's your #1 defense when it comes to protecting your boy toy shaq...fucking faggots..this is why EVERYONE IN L.A IS SAYING FUCK SHAQ..IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHOS REALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIPS BLAH BLAH BLAH..GET IT THROUGH YOUR STUPID THICK HEADS,THIS IS WHY NO ONE IN L.A LIKES SHAQ...
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funny that when anyone says Shaq was responsible for those championships...you will say it was a team effort. But your losing season last year wasnt a TEAM EFFORT...it was everyone ELSES fault BUT Kobe's. ::) Now thats retarded...
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shut the fuck up,you already got owned..your responces..
1.get laid
2.you're a 10 year old kid
3.you're a kobe dick ryder
::)
i'm coming with facts about shaq and making strong arguments and that's your responces? you got owned,go kill yourself
And when did i say it wasn't kobes foult for last year? you just make shit up couse you got sooned!!
kobe's teamates sucked,rudy t's system sucked,therefore kobe did to much in a system he's not used to and struggle last season..that tends to happend when you go from playing in the triangle and playing with guys who you trust could make shots (fisher,horry,b.shaw,harper,fox,g.rice,k.rush) and of course shaq inside,to playing with the garbage he had last season
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