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Should we make a new section for Laker fans?
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: PLANT on October 18, 2005, 05:42:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 18, 2005, 04:09:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: PLANT on October 18, 2005, 04:01:45 PM ---You can cry all you want about how his team sucks etc. but at the end of the day, hes not making the players around him better either.
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Really? That explains why Caron Butler, Chris Mihm, Jumain Jones, Chucky Atkins, Tierre Brown, and others improved from the previous season while playing with Kobe. Kobe also averaged a career high in assists. But you can only do so much...
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Career numbers? LOL, Caron was wayy better when he was with the heat. And if Kobe was as great as you say he is, then why couldnt he carry that team to the playoffs? At least make the 8th spot then I might give him some credit. For example, Ray Allen isnt surrounded with much talent (Rashard Lewis) and he can still take his team to the playoffs and make the players around him better.
By the way Lamar Odom>>Rashard Lewis
Get what Im saying?
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See, you're stupid, so you're completely missing the point. Of course Ray Allen took his team to the playoffs, he was playing in a well-organized system where the players were actually COACHED and the team didn't go through all sorts of setbacks throughout the season...LOL...Please make valid points if you're gunna argue...And LMAO@Caron Butler being wayyyy better with the Heat. His last 20 games with the Lakers where he averaged well over 20 points was the highlight of his career.
Caron Butler 03-04 stats: 9.2 ppg, 4.8 reb, 38% fg, 23% 3p, 75% ft.
Caron Butler 04-05 stats: 15.5 ppg, 5.8 reb, 45% fg, 30% 3p, 86% ft.
You dumbass...
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: TeeRaySix9Teen on October 18, 2005, 10:39:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 18, 2005, 11:03:34 AM ---
--- Quote from: TeeRaySix9Teen on October 18, 2005, 10:31:34 AM ---
--- Quote from: Lakers Run L.A on October 18, 2005, 02:43:17 AM ---yeah b/c you're "leecher faggot" contribute to this forum instead of just saying stupid stuff
and lol @ you faggots getting owned..now it's come to telling me i'm a lil boy and i need to get a girl and to stop riding kobes nuts :loser: :loser:
like i said ,,you guys are the real dick ryders...no one said shaq wasn't dominent and the best b-ball player @ that time.that has nothing to do with why we hate shaq,Laker fans don't even argue who was responsible for those championships,(We know it takes a team effort to win championships,unlike you morons)you guys are the ones who always bring that up when people are saying some real stuff about shaq..that's your #1 defense when it comes to protecting your boy toy shaq...fucking faggots..this is why EVERYONE IN L.A IS SAYING FUCK SHAQ..IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHOS REALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIPS BLAH BLAH BLAH..GET IT THROUGH YOUR STUPID THICK HEADS,THIS IS WHY NO ONE IN L.A LIKES SHAQ...
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funny that when anyone says Shaq was responsible for those championships...you will say it was a team effort. But your losing season last year wasnt a TEAM EFFORT...it was everyone ELSES fault BUT Kobe's. ::) Now thats retarded...
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That's because there was no team last year...It was a bunch of players thrown together on the court who were told to "run and gun" by someone who wasn't even a coach. Organized basketball consists of a lot more, and believe it or not, it's not all in Kobe's hands...PeACe
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as long as they lose right? I never said its ALL in his hands. It isnt ALL in his hands when they win. He is a part of why they win. But at the same time (and i dont know WHY this is so hard for you Kobe fans to get...) he is ALSO part of the team when they LOSE. Difficult to understand...i know. But its true...there isnt an asterisk next to all Laker losses saying...*This wasnt Kobe's fault.
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He is part of the TEAM when they lose, but he doesn't contribute to the problem. He was the one to bail them out when they got into problems...That's why I don't blame Kobe.
PLANT:
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 19, 2005, 10:07:16 AM ---
--- Quote from: PLANT on October 18, 2005, 05:42:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 18, 2005, 04:09:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: PLANT on October 18, 2005, 04:01:45 PM ---You can cry all you want about how his team sucks etc. but at the end of the day, hes not making the players around him better either.
--- End quote ---
Really? That explains why Caron Butler, Chris Mihm, Jumain Jones, Chucky Atkins, Tierre Brown, and others improved from the previous season while playing with Kobe. Kobe also averaged a career high in assists. But you can only do so much...
--- End quote ---
Career numbers? LOL, Caron was wayy better when he was with the heat. And if Kobe was as great as you say he is, then why couldnt he carry that team to the playoffs? At least make the 8th spot then I might give him some credit. For example, Ray Allen isnt surrounded with much talent (Rashard Lewis) and he can still take his team to the playoffs and make the players around him better.
By the way Lamar Odom>>Rashard Lewis
Get what Im saying?
--- End quote ---
See, you're stupid, so you're completely missing the point. Of course Ray Allen took his team to the playoffs, he was playing in a well-organized system where the players were actually COACHED and the team didn't go through all sorts of setbacks throughout the season...LOL...Please make valid points if you're gunna argue...And LMAO@Caron Butler being wayyyy better with the Heat. His last 20 games with the Lakers where he averaged well over 20 points was the highlight of his career.
Caron Butler 03-04 stats: 9.2 ppg, 4.8 reb, 38% fg, 23% 3p, 75% ft.
Caron Butler 04-05 stats: 15.5 ppg, 5.8 reb, 45% fg, 30% 3p, 86% ft.
You dumbass...
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well you forgot to add
YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
02-03 MIA 78 78 36.6 .416 .318 .824 1.7 3.4 5.1 2.7 1.76 .40 2.46 2.90 15.4
Not much difference
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
It doesn't matter...You said he played better with Miami, which, obviously, he didn't...LOL
PLANT:
Well you can be right. It doesnt matter. I just remember hearing alot about Caron Butler when he came in the league with Miami and he had a great rookie season. I never hear much about him in LA. But I didnt realize his numbers with the lakers last season were that good.
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