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Arafat Death Probe Inconclusive
J @ M @ L:
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--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 27, 2005, 02:51:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 27, 2005, 12:01:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 25, 2005, 09:24:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 25, 2005, 06:11:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 25, 2005, 05:32:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 25, 2005, 03:08:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 25, 2005, 02:04:58 AM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 25, 2005, 01:07:14 AM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 11:18:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 12:24:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 10:38:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 04:32:41 AM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 12:35:17 AM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 12:15:22 AM ---Nice job ignoring your contradictions, keep it up. And thank you Tech, maybe the moment Propaganda victims get reinforced by their likes they calm down.
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LOL... nice job ignoring the entire argument and your flip-flopping... LOL @ propaganda victims coming from the guy who blindly supports the regime that calls a wall 30 times larger than the Berlin Wall a fence.... we won't even talk about actions it has taken (Lavon Affair ;))
Now go read your history books written by Zionists.
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lol And you've called me brainwashed even though I've told you that I'm against this fence. Damn, so thick headed and blind to the facts, you really frustrate me homie.
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I can understand you being frustrated... I would be too if I didn't know what the fuck was going on and I got involved in some argument with someone I can't bullshit. :)
Anyways, this and you are over. Peace.
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I could go on for days pointing out facts and refuting your ungrounded statements but what good does talking to a wall?
Good luck, hope your self-persuasion works out for you, you're a lucky dude if you can live in peace with yourself without minding reality.
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Says the guy who supports the government with over 60 UN resolutions against it... the government that kills off innocent people... the government that bulldozes the homes of innocent people... the government that illegally occupies the land of others... the government that attacks U.S. navy vessels hoping that the blame will be put on someone else.... LOL.. yeah, I'm not minding reality. Good luck, hope your ignorance works out for you, you're a lucky dude if you can live in peace with yourself without minding the truth. :)
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I never knew it was the "government" bulldozing homes and killing innocent people, I thought it was the Israeli soldiers performing these actions. Oh wait, it was..."Government" does not approve the killings of innocent people, I Geezy has been saying that...
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LOL@ it's not the government, it's the soldiers.... I seriously can't believe this... that's like saying it's not our government's fault that we went to war... it's the military's fault because they're the ones that went there... LOLLLLL what the fuck.... you think the soldiers just go out there and do whatever the fuck they want? Did our troops decide "damn, let's go to Iraq and take out Saddam"... or was it our government? Come on man, you gotta be smarter than this.
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Like I said and you ignored, the government does not approve killings of innocent people. Soldiers are sent out to war, innocent people get harmed, it is not the main intention...Why do you choose to ignore that and bring up Iraq?
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I was referring to the line about the bulldozing of homes... where you claimed that it was the soldiers doing that and not the government... I hope you realize and understand that the government makes such decisions and not the military. Why do you choose to ignore that?
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Have they ever approved the bulldozing of a civilians home out in the open? No. So how else would you be able to provide proof for that statement unless you knew the Israeli government personally and they admitted this to you?
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What the hell are you talking about? Have they approved it? LOL they're the ones doing it... the government bulldozes homes, not the military. That's like saying construction workers make the decision to build freeways.. and then asking "has the government approved that action by the construction workers?" LOL
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You ignored my question. Is that your signature method of debating? Like I asked, has the government openly admitted to intentionally targeting Palestinian civilians or not? If they haven't, there is no possible way you can prove it, everything else is just speculation...That's what I'm talkin' about.
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No the government hasn't openly admitted to it... but what government would? If the government tries to hide the shit it does... then why would it just openly admit something? There is no possible way I can prove it for the present. However, you made 2 points in your original statement, the other being that about the bulldozing of homes. That's what I addressed... that's what I argued... I didn't argue the part about killing civilians... you're ignoring your own comments... I didn't ignore anything...
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Let's clear something out, Israel does not bulldoze homes cause the IDF or the Israeli government feel like it, if this was the case I don't believe there would be a single building left standing on Palestinian territory. However Israel does uphold a penal policy in the address of those who choose to comply with terrorist power structures. How would you choose to supply observed negative reinforcement to up and coming suicide bombers(that high percentage among Palestinian youth that dreams about becoming Shahids)?? Israel does not demolish homes just for the heck of it.
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LOL the way you try to justify these things is hilarious.... what gives Israel the right to go into Palestinian territory, and demolish the homes of Palestinians? Actually.... homes were demolished because they were "in the way" of the wall built.... in addition to the land stolen, etc... LOL get the fuck outta here man
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 27, 2005, 03:17:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 27, 2005, 03:09:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 27, 2005, 02:51:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 27, 2005, 12:01:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 25, 2005, 09:24:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 25, 2005, 06:11:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 25, 2005, 05:32:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 25, 2005, 03:08:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 25, 2005, 02:04:58 AM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 25, 2005, 01:07:14 AM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 11:18:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 12:24:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 10:38:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 04:32:41 AM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 12:35:17 AM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 12:15:22 AM ---Nice job ignoring your contradictions, keep it up. And thank you Tech, maybe the moment Propaganda victims get reinforced by their likes they calm down.
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LOL... nice job ignoring the entire argument and your flip-flopping... LOL @ propaganda victims coming from the guy who blindly supports the regime that calls a wall 30 times larger than the Berlin Wall a fence.... we won't even talk about actions it has taken (Lavon Affair ;))
Now go read your history books written by Zionists.
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lol And you've called me brainwashed even though I've told you that I'm against this fence. Damn, so thick headed and blind to the facts, you really frustrate me homie.
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I can understand you being frustrated... I would be too if I didn't know what the fuck was going on and I got involved in some argument with someone I can't bullshit. :)
Anyways, this and you are over. Peace.
--- End quote ---
I could go on for days pointing out facts and refuting your ungrounded statements but what good does talking to a wall?
Good luck, hope your self-persuasion works out for you, you're a lucky dude if you can live in peace with yourself without minding reality.
--- End quote ---
Says the guy who supports the government with over 60 UN resolutions against it... the government that kills off innocent people... the government that bulldozes the homes of innocent people... the government that illegally occupies the land of others... the government that attacks U.S. navy vessels hoping that the blame will be put on someone else.... LOL.. yeah, I'm not minding reality. Good luck, hope your ignorance works out for you, you're a lucky dude if you can live in peace with yourself without minding the truth. :)
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I never knew it was the "government" bulldozing homes and killing innocent people, I thought it was the Israeli soldiers performing these actions. Oh wait, it was..."Government" does not approve the killings of innocent people, I Geezy has been saying that...
--- End quote ---
LOL@ it's not the government, it's the soldiers.... I seriously can't believe this... that's like saying it's not our government's fault that we went to war... it's the military's fault because they're the ones that went there... LOLLLLL what the fuck.... you think the soldiers just go out there and do whatever the fuck they want? Did our troops decide "damn, let's go to Iraq and take out Saddam"... or was it our government? Come on man, you gotta be smarter than this.
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Like I said and you ignored, the government does not approve killings of innocent people. Soldiers are sent out to war, innocent people get harmed, it is not the main intention...Why do you choose to ignore that and bring up Iraq?
--- End quote ---
I was referring to the line about the bulldozing of homes... where you claimed that it was the soldiers doing that and not the government... I hope you realize and understand that the government makes such decisions and not the military. Why do you choose to ignore that?
--- End quote ---
Have they ever approved the bulldozing of a civilians home out in the open? No. So how else would you be able to provide proof for that statement unless you knew the Israeli government personally and they admitted this to you?
--- End quote ---
What the hell are you talking about? Have they approved it? LOL they're the ones doing it... the government bulldozes homes, not the military. That's like saying construction workers make the decision to build freeways.. and then asking "has the government approved that action by the construction workers?" LOL
--- End quote ---
You ignored my question. Is that your signature method of debating? Like I asked, has the government openly admitted to intentionally targeting Palestinian civilians or not? If they haven't, there is no possible way you can prove it, everything else is just speculation...That's what I'm talkin' about.
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No the government hasn't openly admitted to it... but what government would? If the government tries to hide the shit it does... then why would it just openly admit something? There is no possible way I can prove it for the present. However, you made 2 points in your original statement, the other being that about the bulldozing of homes. That's what I addressed... that's what I argued... I didn't argue the part about killing civilians... you're ignoring your own comments... I didn't ignore anything...
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Let's clear something out, Israel does not bulldoze homes cause the IDF or the Israeli government feel like it, if this was the case I don't believe there would be a single building left standing on Palestinian territory. However Israel does uphold a penal policy in the address of those who choose to comply with terrorist power structures. How would you choose to supply observed negative reinforcement to up and coming suicide bombers(that high percentage among Palestinian youth that dreams about becoming Shahids)?? Israel does not demolish homes just for the heck of it.
--- End quote ---
LOL the way you try to justify these things is hilarious.... what gives Israel the right to go into Palestinian territory, and demolish the homes of Palestinians? Actually.... homes were demolished because they were "in the way" of the wall built.... in addition to the land stolen, etc... LOL get the fuck outta here man
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What gives Israel the right??? Are you worried more about some terrorist's house than you are worried about the lives of Israeli civilians?Well of course you are, I almost forgot who I'm talking to. And I do not need to justify shit man, these terrorists are the ones doing it for me.What gives them a right to send brainwashed fucktards to blow themselves up on Israeli civilians?
Man you're lost in your own bullshit, you keep contradicting yourself time after time, one moment you're against suicide bombing next moment you're worried more about terrorists homes than you are about human lives, the normal humans, not the ones that decide to die and to take along with them more people. Did you know that thanks to this policy there were cases when Palestinian families that knew their sons were about to blow themselves up submited them to the IDF preventing many losses of human lives? I know of at least 20 cases....tell me it wasn't worth it you hypocrite.
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 27, 2005, 03:36:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 27, 2005, 03:17:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 27, 2005, 03:09:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 27, 2005, 02:51:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 27, 2005, 12:01:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 25, 2005, 09:24:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 25, 2005, 06:11:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 25, 2005, 05:32:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 25, 2005, 03:08:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 25, 2005, 02:04:58 AM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 25, 2005, 01:07:14 AM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 11:18:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 12:24:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 10:38:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 04:32:41 AM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 12:35:17 AM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 12:15:22 AM ---Nice job ignoring your contradictions, keep it up. And thank you Tech, maybe the moment Propaganda victims get reinforced by their likes they calm down.
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LOL... nice job ignoring the entire argument and your flip-flopping... LOL @ propaganda victims coming from the guy who blindly supports the regime that calls a wall 30 times larger than the Berlin Wall a fence.... we won't even talk about actions it has taken (Lavon Affair ;))
Now go read your history books written by Zionists.
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lol And you've called me brainwashed even though I've told you that I'm against this fence. Damn, so thick headed and blind to the facts, you really frustrate me homie.
--- End quote ---
I can understand you being frustrated... I would be too if I didn't know what the fuck was going on and I got involved in some argument with someone I can't bullshit. :)
Anyways, this and you are over. Peace.
--- End quote ---
I could go on for days pointing out facts and refuting your ungrounded statements but what good does talking to a wall?
Good luck, hope your self-persuasion works out for you, you're a lucky dude if you can live in peace with yourself without minding reality.
--- End quote ---
Says the guy who supports the government with over 60 UN resolutions against it... the government that kills off innocent people... the government that bulldozes the homes of innocent people... the government that illegally occupies the land of others... the government that attacks U.S. navy vessels hoping that the blame will be put on someone else.... LOL.. yeah, I'm not minding reality. Good luck, hope your ignorance works out for you, you're a lucky dude if you can live in peace with yourself without minding the truth. :)
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I never knew it was the "government" bulldozing homes and killing innocent people, I thought it was the Israeli soldiers performing these actions. Oh wait, it was..."Government" does not approve the killings of innocent people, I Geezy has been saying that...
--- End quote ---
LOL@ it's not the government, it's the soldiers.... I seriously can't believe this... that's like saying it's not our government's fault that we went to war... it's the military's fault because they're the ones that went there... LOLLLLL what the fuck.... you think the soldiers just go out there and do whatever the fuck they want? Did our troops decide "damn, let's go to Iraq and take out Saddam"... or was it our government? Come on man, you gotta be smarter than this.
--- End quote ---
Like I said and you ignored, the government does not approve killings of innocent people. Soldiers are sent out to war, innocent people get harmed, it is not the main intention...Why do you choose to ignore that and bring up Iraq?
--- End quote ---
I was referring to the line about the bulldozing of homes... where you claimed that it was the soldiers doing that and not the government... I hope you realize and understand that the government makes such decisions and not the military. Why do you choose to ignore that?
--- End quote ---
Have they ever approved the bulldozing of a civilians home out in the open? No. So how else would you be able to provide proof for that statement unless you knew the Israeli government personally and they admitted this to you?
--- End quote ---
What the hell are you talking about? Have they approved it? LOL they're the ones doing it... the government bulldozes homes, not the military. That's like saying construction workers make the decision to build freeways.. and then asking "has the government approved that action by the construction workers?" LOL
--- End quote ---
You ignored my question. Is that your signature method of debating? Like I asked, has the government openly admitted to intentionally targeting Palestinian civilians or not? If they haven't, there is no possible way you can prove it, everything else is just speculation...That's what I'm talkin' about.
--- End quote ---
No the government hasn't openly admitted to it... but what government would? If the government tries to hide the shit it does... then why would it just openly admit something? There is no possible way I can prove it for the present. However, you made 2 points in your original statement, the other being that about the bulldozing of homes. That's what I addressed... that's what I argued... I didn't argue the part about killing civilians... you're ignoring your own comments... I didn't ignore anything...
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Let's clear something out, Israel does not bulldoze homes cause the IDF or the Israeli government feel like it, if this was the case I don't believe there would be a single building left standing on Palestinian territory. However Israel does uphold a penal policy in the address of those who choose to comply with terrorist power structures. How would you choose to supply observed negative reinforcement to up and coming suicide bombers(that high percentage among Palestinian youth that dreams about becoming Shahids)?? Israel does not demolish homes just for the heck of it.
--- End quote ---
LOL the way you try to justify these things is hilarious.... what gives Israel the right to go into Palestinian territory, and demolish the homes of Palestinians? Actually.... homes were demolished because they were "in the way" of the wall built.... in addition to the land stolen, etc... LOL get the fuck outta here man
--- End quote ---
What gives Israel the right??? Are you worried more about some terrorist's house than you are worried about the lives of Israeli civilians?Well of course you are, I almost forgot who I'm talking to. And I do not need to justify shit man, these terrorists are the ones doing it for me.What gives them a right to send brainwashed fucktards to blow themselves up on Israeli civilians?
Man you're lost in your own bullshit, you keep contradicting yourself time after time, one moment you're against suicide bombing next moment you're worried more about terrorists homes than you are about human lives, the normal humans, not the ones that decide to die and to take along with them more people. Did you know that thanks to this policy there were cases when Palestinian families that knew their sons were about to blow themselves up submited them to the IDF preventing many losses of human lives? I know of at least 20 cases....tell me it wasn't worth it you hypocrite.
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1. Israel has no right to demolish the homes of Palestinian homes... and you haven't been able to show that it has the RIGHT... your reasoning for why you feel it's a good thing doesn't mean it's justified...
2. You're assuming that ONLY the homes of terrorists are being demolished, which is not the case. Even if it were... a terrorist has a family, and you can't punish an entire family for the action of one member.
3. Obviously they don't have the RIGHT to go and blow up shit. That's what makes them "terrorists"... do you see the difference between the terrorists and the Israeli government? If you say there's a difference, then I agree because a government is supposed to adhere to laws... if you say there's no difference, I'd still agree.
4. According to your logic... or lack of one... it's okay to kill someone because you believe there's a chance that in the future that person might kill you... try that in court (you know the place where they look at and observe laws... I hope you know what laws are)
edit: p.s. NONE of what you've said even touches upon why it's okay for Israel to demolish homes on Palestinian land... to make room for a wall being built on Palestinian land...
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 27, 2005, 02:51:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 27, 2005, 12:01:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 25, 2005, 09:24:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 25, 2005, 06:11:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 25, 2005, 05:32:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 25, 2005, 03:08:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 25, 2005, 02:04:58 AM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 25, 2005, 01:07:14 AM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 11:18:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 12:24:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 10:38:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 04:32:41 AM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 12:35:17 AM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 12:15:22 AM ---Nice job ignoring your contradictions, keep it up. And thank you Tech, maybe the moment Propaganda victims get reinforced by their likes they calm down.
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LOL... nice job ignoring the entire argument and your flip-flopping... LOL @ propaganda victims coming from the guy who blindly supports the regime that calls a wall 30 times larger than the Berlin Wall a fence.... we won't even talk about actions it has taken (Lavon Affair ;))
Now go read your history books written by Zionists.
--- End quote ---
lol And you've called me brainwashed even though I've told you that I'm against this fence. Damn, so thick headed and blind to the facts, you really frustrate me homie.
--- End quote ---
I can understand you being frustrated... I would be too if I didn't know what the fuck was going on and I got involved in some argument with someone I can't bullshit. :)
Anyways, this and you are over. Peace.
--- End quote ---
I could go on for days pointing out facts and refuting your ungrounded statements but what good does talking to a wall?
Good luck, hope your self-persuasion works out for you, you're a lucky dude if you can live in peace with yourself without minding reality.
--- End quote ---
Says the guy who supports the government with over 60 UN resolutions against it... the government that kills off innocent people... the government that bulldozes the homes of innocent people... the government that illegally occupies the land of others... the government that attacks U.S. navy vessels hoping that the blame will be put on someone else.... LOL.. yeah, I'm not minding reality. Good luck, hope your ignorance works out for you, you're a lucky dude if you can live in peace with yourself without minding the truth. :)
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I never knew it was the "government" bulldozing homes and killing innocent people, I thought it was the Israeli soldiers performing these actions. Oh wait, it was..."Government" does not approve the killings of innocent people, I Geezy has been saying that...
--- End quote ---
LOL@ it's not the government, it's the soldiers.... I seriously can't believe this... that's like saying it's not our government's fault that we went to war... it's the military's fault because they're the ones that went there... LOLLLLL what the fuck.... you think the soldiers just go out there and do whatever the fuck they want? Did our troops decide "damn, let's go to Iraq and take out Saddam"... or was it our government? Come on man, you gotta be smarter than this.
--- End quote ---
Like I said and you ignored, the government does not approve killings of innocent people. Soldiers are sent out to war, innocent people get harmed, it is not the main intention...Why do you choose to ignore that and bring up Iraq?
--- End quote ---
I was referring to the line about the bulldozing of homes... where you claimed that it was the soldiers doing that and not the government... I hope you realize and understand that the government makes such decisions and not the military. Why do you choose to ignore that?
--- End quote ---
Have they ever approved the bulldozing of a civilians home out in the open? No. So how else would you be able to provide proof for that statement unless you knew the Israeli government personally and they admitted this to you?
--- End quote ---
What the hell are you talking about? Have they approved it? LOL they're the ones doing it... the government bulldozes homes, not the military. That's like saying construction workers make the decision to build freeways.. and then asking "has the government approved that action by the construction workers?" LOL
--- End quote ---
You ignored my question. Is that your signature method of debating? Like I asked, has the government openly admitted to intentionally targeting Palestinian civilians or not? If they haven't, there is no possible way you can prove it, everything else is just speculation...That's what I'm talkin' about.
--- End quote ---
No the government hasn't openly admitted to it... but what government would? If the government tries to hide the shit it does... then why would it just openly admit something? There is no possible way I can prove it for the present. However, you made 2 points in your original statement, the other being that about the bulldozing of homes. That's what I addressed... that's what I argued... I didn't argue the part about killing civilians... you're ignoring your own comments... I didn't ignore anything...
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Regardless, you're arguing about something you can't PROVE...How can you win like that?
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 27, 2005, 03:47:37 PM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 27, 2005, 03:36:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 27, 2005, 03:17:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 27, 2005, 03:09:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 27, 2005, 02:51:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 27, 2005, 12:01:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 25, 2005, 09:24:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 25, 2005, 06:11:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 25, 2005, 05:32:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 25, 2005, 03:08:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 25, 2005, 02:04:58 AM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 25, 2005, 01:07:14 AM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 11:18:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 12:24:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 10:38:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 04:32:41 AM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 12:35:17 AM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 12:15:22 AM ---Nice job ignoring your contradictions, keep it up. And thank you Tech, maybe the moment Propaganda victims get reinforced by their likes they calm down.
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LOL... nice job ignoring the entire argument and your flip-flopping... LOL @ propaganda victims coming from the guy who blindly supports the regime that calls a wall 30 times larger than the Berlin Wall a fence.... we won't even talk about actions it has taken (Lavon Affair ;))
Now go read your history books written by Zionists.
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lol And you've called me brainwashed even though I've told you that I'm against this fence. Damn, so thick headed and blind to the facts, you really frustrate me homie.
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I can understand you being frustrated... I would be too if I didn't know what the fuck was going on and I got involved in some argument with someone I can't bullshit. :)
Anyways, this and you are over. Peace.
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I could go on for days pointing out facts and refuting your ungrounded statements but what good does talking to a wall?
Good luck, hope your self-persuasion works out for you, you're a lucky dude if you can live in peace with yourself without minding reality.
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Says the guy who supports the government with over 60 UN resolutions against it... the government that kills off innocent people... the government that bulldozes the homes of innocent people... the government that illegally occupies the land of others... the government that attacks U.S. navy vessels hoping that the blame will be put on someone else.... LOL.. yeah, I'm not minding reality. Good luck, hope your ignorance works out for you, you're a lucky dude if you can live in peace with yourself without minding the truth. :)
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I never knew it was the "government" bulldozing homes and killing innocent people, I thought it was the Israeli soldiers performing these actions. Oh wait, it was..."Government" does not approve the killings of innocent people, I Geezy has been saying that...
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LOL@ it's not the government, it's the soldiers.... I seriously can't believe this... that's like saying it's not our government's fault that we went to war... it's the military's fault because they're the ones that went there... LOLLLLL what the fuck.... you think the soldiers just go out there and do whatever the fuck they want? Did our troops decide "damn, let's go to Iraq and take out Saddam"... or was it our government? Come on man, you gotta be smarter than this.
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Like I said and you ignored, the government does not approve killings of innocent people. Soldiers are sent out to war, innocent people get harmed, it is not the main intention...Why do you choose to ignore that and bring up Iraq?
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I was referring to the line about the bulldozing of homes... where you claimed that it was the soldiers doing that and not the government... I hope you realize and understand that the government makes such decisions and not the military. Why do you choose to ignore that?
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Have they ever approved the bulldozing of a civilians home out in the open? No. So how else would you be able to provide proof for that statement unless you knew the Israeli government personally and they admitted this to you?
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What the hell are you talking about? Have they approved it? LOL they're the ones doing it... the government bulldozes homes, not the military. That's like saying construction workers make the decision to build freeways.. and then asking "has the government approved that action by the construction workers?" LOL
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You ignored my question. Is that your signature method of debating? Like I asked, has the government openly admitted to intentionally targeting Palestinian civilians or not? If they haven't, there is no possible way you can prove it, everything else is just speculation...That's what I'm talkin' about.
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No the government hasn't openly admitted to it... but what government would? If the government tries to hide the shit it does... then why would it just openly admit something? There is no possible way I can prove it for the present. However, you made 2 points in your original statement, the other being that about the bulldozing of homes. That's what I addressed... that's what I argued... I didn't argue the part about killing civilians... you're ignoring your own comments... I didn't ignore anything...
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Let's clear something out, Israel does not bulldoze homes cause the IDF or the Israeli government feel like it, if this was the case I don't believe there would be a single building left standing on Palestinian territory. However Israel does uphold a penal policy in the address of those who choose to comply with terrorist power structures. How would you choose to supply observed negative reinforcement to up and coming suicide bombers(that high percentage among Palestinian youth that dreams about becoming Shahids)?? Israel does not demolish homes just for the heck of it.
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LOL the way you try to justify these things is hilarious.... what gives Israel the right to go into Palestinian territory, and demolish the homes of Palestinians? Actually.... homes were demolished because they were "in the way" of the wall built.... in addition to the land stolen, etc... LOL get the fuck outta here man
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What gives Israel the right??? Are you worried more about some terrorist's house than you are worried about the lives of Israeli civilians?Well of course you are, I almost forgot who I'm talking to. And I do not need to justify shit man, these terrorists are the ones doing it for me.What gives them a right to send brainwashed fucktards to blow themselves up on Israeli civilians?
Man you're lost in your own bullshit, you keep contradicting yourself time after time, one moment you're against suicide bombing next moment you're worried more about terrorists homes than you are about human lives, the normal humans, not the ones that decide to die and to take along with them more people. Did you know that thanks to this policy there were cases when Palestinian families that knew their sons were about to blow themselves up submited them to the IDF preventing many losses of human lives? I know of at least 20 cases....tell me it wasn't worth it you hypocrite.
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1. Israel has no right to demolish the homes of Palestinian homes... and you haven't been able to show that it has the RIGHT... your reasoning for why you feel it's a good thing doesn't mean it's justified...
2. You're assuming that ONLY the homes of terrorists are being demolished, which is not the case. Even if it were... a terrorist has a family, and you can't punish an entire family for the action of one member.
3. Obviously they don't have the RIGHT to go and blow up shit. That's what makes them "terrorists"... do you see the difference between the terrorists and the Israeli government? If you say there's a difference, then I agree because a government is supposed to adhere to laws... if you say there's no difference, I'd still agree.
4. According to your logic... or lack of one... it's okay to kill someone because you believe there's a chance that in the future that person might kill you... try that in court (you know the place where they look at and observe laws... I hope you know what laws are)
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1. What I feel??? man I haven't even started talking about my feelings on the issue. As for rights- Israel has the right to defend its civilians from terrorist atacks and Israel has the right to prevent such atacks. Being that the Palestinian authority proves itself to be impotent or non-willing to prevent such assaults, Israel has even more than a right IT HAS A MORAL OBLIGATION TO DO WHATEVER IS IN ITS POWER TO DEFUSE SUCH ENDEAVORS.
2.Since you are not sure whether only the homes of terrorists are being demolished, why are you even commenting on this? for the sake of speculation?...-Well of course.
How else would you punish a person that decided to commit mass murder along with a suicide? Would you kill him again? Israel supplies observed negative reinforcement for likely to emerge future bombers and for their families, there's no other treatment except for from within the Palestinian authority which they are not willing to inflict.
3.You're damn right they don't have the right to blow up Israeli civilians although I know that you are saying it only for the sake of political correctness. And there IS a huge difference between terrorists and governments in most of the world but in the Palestinian Autonomy these structures seem to be accomplices.
4. How in hell did you conclude that according to my logic it is OK to kill people in advance to their crime? STOP PUTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH, go argue with yourself man you seem to be in disagreement with your own bullshit.
P.S As for the fence\wall or whatever you choose to call it, I've already expressed my thoughts on it and you know that I greatly oppose it, unless you simply ignored my posts something I believe you may have done. I don't need to justify it though since I believe it will be much more harmful to Israel.
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