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Europeans... Abortion as a divisive issue

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Don Seer:
yeah for real... in ireland its a pretty horrible issue. but in mainland england its from what i've seen as individual choice.

last time we covered this here former TOT sherriff owen (lol) who was a roman catholic got so upset at us being "pro-choice"  (mostly me and two females optical and HHH) that he deleted his account when we wouldn't bow down to his religious posturing.

he even said that an underaged rape victim who has been made pregnant from the attack SHOULD keep the child.

trauma posted up some interesting stuff about late term abortions which i wasnt really aware of before.

basically my beliefs are..

1) i beleive that the person having the abortion is the one who makes the choice. no matter what age they are, neither the church OR parents should have a say in forcing the matter.

2) i believe if an abortion is to be done, it should be done at the earliest point possible. there should be a defined cut off point.


i also believe one more thing thats kinda related.

any father of a child be it from a 1 night stand or ex-boyfriend who is no longer connected to the person having the child _should_ be informed of at least the birth of the child. i think there should be more legal emphasis on fathers rights.
yes they should have little in terms of abortion. but I think its very very wrong if a guy doesnt know he has a kid for years and finds out say 10 years later when the woman needs money or whatever. i think it should be legally wrong to do this to a guy.


i actually know of a girl who had a 1 nighter with someone during a summer holiday and is now pregnant who is now tracking down this guy to let him know she's now pregnant and is going to have the kid. guy has a shock coming..

i also used to work with a dude who did find out a 1 nighter 10 years ago yielded a son which kinda fucked him up..

Don Rizzle:
i'll tell u this if any girl ever aborted my child without consulting me, I would beat the shit out of her - its the only time i'd ever hit a woman because thats some real cold shit.

Don Seer:
hmm thats way harsh.. if its unplanned and whether you're with her or not its still not your choice alone. thats a very selfish attitude to have. 

the choice is hers.. of course you have a right to be upset and its likely this has caused many a break-up.. but at the end of the day.. its her choice. if its meant to be with this girl hopefully you'll feel the same on the matter or talk it through maturely.

if you ever laid a hand on a girl down here you'd find yourself on your ass no matter what the reason.

Don Rizzle:
i disagree that its the girls choice, it takes 2 ppl to make a baby so it takes 2 ppl to decide whether to get rid of it or not. i'm talking about if they go behind my back to get rid of my own child, i think that is the lowest thing anyone could do to me and they would have to pay for that. i'd never hit a girl for any other reason....i've always told my girlfriends how i feel about this so they know whats coming if they betray me like that.

Don Seer:

and you're single right? :D

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