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Now_Im_Not_Banned:
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--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2006, 04:52:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on June 26, 2006, 04:32:54 PM ---
Dude your emtremely biased how is Artest a nightmare on offense? He doesnt have thebest shooting % but last time I checked he averaged 4 more points a game then Odom while being the best defender in the league so face it no matter how much you despise Ronnie he is significantly better than Odom. You let your feelings get in the way of your opinions and thats why you are biased. Also the way you discredit Marion's stats is amazing I love it dude is averaging 7 more points a game then Odom with 2 more rebounds a game and you say its because the system he's in. Dude the Lakers push the ball alot to not as much as the Suns obviousley but still alot. Believe me I like Odom alot and he is a good all around player but hes not even close to being a top ten player what a fuckin joke.
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You're not using your brain, man...Did you ever take into account that Odom palys the role of the PLAYMAKER on the Lakers. He is not a primary scorer, which is why those players average more points, genius. They take A LOT more shots! And they don't even average that much more...And how is Artest a nightmare on offense? I'll tell you how. He shot 38% from the field! That's HORRIBLE. 30% from 3 point range...He still managed to shoot 630 field goals and 200 threes in 40 games for the Kings as a DEFESNIVE stopper...He thinks he's special on offense when he's not, and that pisses off the other players and coaching staff...I've seen him single-handedly ruin the offensive flow of games this year...Odom is better than Artest, sorry, it is a very valid opinion... I bet you that more GM's would take Odom over Artest, even with Odom's much larger contract...Odom is mentally and all-around statistically better as well...
--- Quote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on June 26, 2006, 03:10:41 PM ---And back to your list
Artest : Scores more than Odom, He is a former Defensive player in the league so seeing that hes a better scorer and a great defender he is easily better than Odom and their is nothing you can say to argue that. Any GM would say Artest > Odom
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See ^^^
--- Quote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on June 26, 2006, 03:10:41 PM ---Marion : Same position as Odom , lets compare stats Odom14ppg,9rpb Marion 21ppg,11rpg With a gap that big in statistics its impossible to argue that Odom is better than Marion you are such a suns hater. Any GM would say Marion > Odom[/quot]
See ^^^
--- Quote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on June 26, 2006, 03:10:41 PM ---Nash : HAHAHAH Odom better than the player who has won back to back MVP's LMFAO. You sound so stupid when you say Odom is better than Nash of my god your biased, Nash isnt a good defender but he is so valuable and great offensively its laughable to compare him to Odom. Any GM would say Nash > Odom
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Nash is better on offense, Odom plays both ends of the court...Nash is overrated, definitely not 2 time MVP material.
--- Quote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on June 26, 2006, 03:10:41 PM ---Maggette: This matchup is a little closer but still not really that close, Cory is very athletic and does everything that Odom does, Maggete doesnt rebound like Odom but he also scores 8 more points a game so overall Maggette is better than Odom.
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Again, Odom is not a primary scorer while Maggette is...While I think Maggette is an excellent player, his defense needs major improvement to surpass Odom and he doesn't fill up a stat sheet like Odom can.
--- Quote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on June 26, 2006, 03:10:41 PM ---That meens Odom is the 9th best player in the Pacific division but you say that hes one of the best players i the league.hahah Read what I just said you just got owned! Any non biased NBA fan would take Artest > Odom, Nash > Odom, Marion > Odom! Face it Im right and your wrong and it's easy to see!
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Your points are all stupid and get shut down...I posted up "credible people" who all said Odom was one of the best players in the league. You just babble on about nothing...I clearly win. :-*
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Ok man if you say so! their is no point in debating with you as you just argue to argue. Its not my opinions its a fact that Marion, Artest, and Nash are better than Odom its a FACT not a opinion.
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It's a fact that you have no clue in your tiny little mind what the definition of a fact is...
GangstaBoogy:
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2006, 04:22:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: Baby G on June 26, 2006, 03:53:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on June 26, 2006, 01:55:24 PM ---You Laker fans think Odom is WAYYY better than he really is. He's just another top 40-50 player in the league, I meen he's nice but LMFAO at NIK saying he will only trade Odom if he gets Kg talent in return LMAO Good luck! Odom is to streaky some nights I watch the Lakers and I forget he is even playing. He is a good player I meen 14.8ppg and 9.2 rpg is very nice but again he is just a top 45-50 player in the league so I understand why you Laker fans like him but he's not as great as you all think. But I understand it's just being biased I meen I remember that thread I started for best players at every position and NIK actually had Odom above Artest, Ak47 and Marion hahaha, gotta love Laker fans!
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who exactly was this directed at besisdes nik? im a lakers fan but im not happy with lamar odom's performance this season at all. im still pissed that he blew that game against the kings (up by 4 with 20 seconds and he decides to take a layup...and missed it, which led to bibby knockin down a 3).
side note: if anyone can honestly say that odom is better than kirilenko - they should die. that would be a dream come true if the lakers could steal him from utah.
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I think Kirilenko is good, but you are an idiot for making all these absurd comments all the time. "if anyone can honestly say that odom is better than kirilenko - they should die"...You can say that if someone compares Kobe Bryant and Rashas McCants. LeBron James and Bobby Simmons. Allen Iverson and Tyrone Lue...NOT Lamar Odom and Andrei Kirilenko. Kirilenko would be nice to have, yes, but I do not believe he is the player for our system...I LOVE his defense, but WOW, he's so inconsistant. about 3 times more inconsistant than Odom. Talk about a player who doesn't show up every night...Sorry, I much rather have Odom over Kirilenko any day of the weak, especially in our system... :-*
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he averages 15 points, 8 rebounds, 4 assist, and 3 blocks a game. id take him for odom anyday.
Spicemuthafuc*in1:
--- Quote from: Baby G on June 26, 2006, 09:49:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2006, 04:22:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: Baby G on June 26, 2006, 03:53:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on June 26, 2006, 01:55:24 PM ---You Laker fans think Odom is WAYYY better than he really is. He's just another top 40-50 player in the league, I meen he's nice but LMFAO at NIK saying he will only trade Odom if he gets Kg talent in return LMAO Good luck! Odom is to streaky some nights I watch the Lakers and I forget he is even playing. He is a good player I meen 14.8ppg and 9.2 rpg is very nice but again he is just a top 45-50 player in the league so I understand why you Laker fans like him but he's not as great as you all think. But I understand it's just being biased I meen I remember that thread I started for best players at every position and NIK actually had Odom above Artest, Ak47 and Marion hahaha, gotta love Laker fans!
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who exactly was this directed at besisdes nik? im a lakers fan but im not happy with lamar odom's performance this season at all. im still pissed that he blew that game against the kings (up by 4 with 20 seconds and he decides to take a layup...and missed it, which led to bibby knockin down a 3).
side note: if anyone can honestly say that odom is better than kirilenko - they should die. that would be a dream come true if the lakers could steal him from utah.
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I think Kirilenko is good, but you are an idiot for making all these absurd comments all the time. "if anyone can honestly say that odom is better than kirilenko - they should die"...You can say that if someone compares Kobe Bryant and Rashas McCants. LeBron James and Bobby Simmons. Allen Iverson and Tyrone Lue...NOT Lamar Odom and Andrei Kirilenko. Kirilenko would be nice to have, yes, but I do not believe he is the player for our system...I LOVE his defense, but WOW, he's so inconsistant. about 3 times more inconsistant than Odom. Talk about a player who doesn't show up every night...Sorry, I much rather have Odom over Kirilenko any day of the weak, especially in our system... :-*
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he averages 15 points, 8 rebounds, 4 assist, and 3 blocks a game. id take him for odom anyday.
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Your not the only one, NIK is the only person alive who thinks Odom is better than AK47.
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on June 26, 2006, 09:52:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: Baby G on June 26, 2006, 09:49:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2006, 04:22:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: Baby G on June 26, 2006, 03:53:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on June 26, 2006, 01:55:24 PM ---You Laker fans think Odom is WAYYY better than he really is. He's just another top 40-50 player in the league, I meen he's nice but LMFAO at NIK saying he will only trade Odom if he gets Kg talent in return LMAO Good luck! Odom is to streaky some nights I watch the Lakers and I forget he is even playing. He is a good player I meen 14.8ppg and 9.2 rpg is very nice but again he is just a top 45-50 player in the league so I understand why you Laker fans like him but he's not as great as you all think. But I understand it's just being biased I meen I remember that thread I started for best players at every position and NIK actually had Odom above Artest, Ak47 and Marion hahaha, gotta love Laker fans!
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who exactly was this directed at besisdes nik? im a lakers fan but im not happy with lamar odom's performance this season at all. im still pissed that he blew that game against the kings (up by 4 with 20 seconds and he decides to take a layup...and missed it, which led to bibby knockin down a 3).
side note: if anyone can honestly say that odom is better than kirilenko - they should die. that would be a dream come true if the lakers could steal him from utah.
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I think Kirilenko is good, but you are an idiot for making all these absurd comments all the time. "if anyone can honestly say that odom is better than kirilenko - they should die"...You can say that if someone compares Kobe Bryant and Rashas McCants. LeBron James and Bobby Simmons. Allen Iverson and Tyrone Lue...NOT Lamar Odom and Andrei Kirilenko. Kirilenko would be nice to have, yes, but I do not believe he is the player for our system...I LOVE his defense, but WOW, he's so inconsistant. about 3 times more inconsistant than Odom. Talk about a player who doesn't show up every night...Sorry, I much rather have Odom over Kirilenko any day of the weak, especially in our system... :-*
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he averages 15 points, 8 rebounds, 4 assist, and 3 blocks a game. id take him for odom anyday.
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Your not the only one, NIK is the only person alive who thinks Odom is better than AK47.
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Officially another retarded/baseless statement made by you. Go make a thread titled "Odom or Kirilenko" on Lakersground.net so that you can feel as stupid as your claim...
http://messageboard.tuckermax.com/archive/index.php/t-252.html
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: Baby G on June 26, 2006, 09:49:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2006, 04:22:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: Baby G on June 26, 2006, 03:53:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on June 26, 2006, 01:55:24 PM ---You Laker fans think Odom is WAYYY better than he really is. He's just another top 40-50 player in the league, I meen he's nice but LMFAO at NIK saying he will only trade Odom if he gets Kg talent in return LMAO Good luck! Odom is to streaky some nights I watch the Lakers and I forget he is even playing. He is a good player I meen 14.8ppg and 9.2 rpg is very nice but again he is just a top 45-50 player in the league so I understand why you Laker fans like him but he's not as great as you all think. But I understand it's just being biased I meen I remember that thread I started for best players at every position and NIK actually had Odom above Artest, Ak47 and Marion hahaha, gotta love Laker fans!
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who exactly was this directed at besisdes nik? im a lakers fan but im not happy with lamar odom's performance this season at all. im still pissed that he blew that game against the kings (up by 4 with 20 seconds and he decides to take a layup...and missed it, which led to bibby knockin down a 3).
side note: if anyone can honestly say that odom is better than kirilenko - they should die. that would be a dream come true if the lakers could steal him from utah.
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I think Kirilenko is good, but you are an idiot for making all these absurd comments all the time. "if anyone can honestly say that odom is better than kirilenko - they should die"...You can say that if someone compares Kobe Bryant and Rashas McCants. LeBron James and Bobby Simmons. Allen Iverson and Tyrone Lue...NOT Lamar Odom and Andrei Kirilenko. Kirilenko would be nice to have, yes, but I do not believe he is the player for our system...I LOVE his defense, but WOW, he's so inconsistant. about 3 times more inconsistant than Odom. Talk about a player who doesn't show up every night...Sorry, I much rather have Odom over Kirilenko any day of the weak, especially in our system... :-*
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he averages 15 points, 8 rebounds, 4 assist, and 3 blocks a game. id take him for odom anyday.
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What does that have to do with what I said? I just spoke of his inconsistancies, especially on offense. He can score 24 points in a game and then the next night he'll score 3 in the same amount of minutes. That's why he averages 15 a game...That's a horrible trait, I wouldn't get near that. Odom was enough of an inconsistancy, we don't need someone even more inconsistant than Odom was, trust me...So really, he's only a better defender. Odom still averages better rebounds and assists with a better percentage in every category...I'm sorry, Kirilenko would flop hard in our system. Stick with Odom...PeACe
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