Lifestyle > Sports & Entertainment
The Official Los Angeles Lakers thread
wcsoldier:
^^^^ that's why stats are very overrated ... Gasol is a VERY average performer in the clutch
.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:
--- Quote from: wcsoldier on December 04, 2010, 03:56:36 AM ---^^^^ that's why stats are very overrated ... Gasol is a VERY average performer in the clutch
--- End quote ---
Yeah, but how do you judge that? Im not a HUGE stat guy really. But they are unbiased and black and white. A lot of times when people say "this guy is amazing in the clutch", they are allowing their emotions to get involved. If you took the names out of the mix and just said....Player A shoots 43% during the clutch moments of games...and Player B shoots 50%. Who do you want to take the shot? Not one person on Earth would say Player A. But because a lot of people have bought into the fact that Kobe is amazing in the clutch, that 43% means nothing now. Kobe is an amazing player. But his "clutch" image is a result of him just always taking the last shot so the fans see the gamewinners. Even though he doesnt perform any better than most of the league at that moment. Actually worse.
wcsoldier:
^^^^ By watching the games ... Kobe had his share of misses in the clutch but he made a lot too ... these stats are based on the last shot anyways ... clutchness is more than the last shot imo ... if the game is a closed one and a player has like 15 pts in the 4th , he's clutch in my book ... another factor stats don't reflect well is the way players are defended in these situations ... I'm sure role players like Fisher and Horry who have made a living hitting open shots in the money time have better FG% than Kobe .... are they better closer thab him ? I think the answer is obvious
.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:
--- Quote from: wcsoldier on December 04, 2010, 09:03:33 AM ---^^^^ By watching the games ... Kobe had his share of misses in the clutch but he made a lot too ... these stats are based on the last shot anyways ... clutchness is more than the last shot imo ... if the game is a closed one and a player has like 15 pts in the 4th , he's clutch in my book ... another factor stats don't reflect well is the way players are defended in these situations ... I'm sure role players like Fisher and Horry who have made a living hitting open shots in the money time have better FG% than Kobe .... are they better closer thab him ? I think the answer is obvious
--- End quote ---
Actually, the stats I posted a while back were based on way more than the last shot. The stats were compiled over the course of 2 or 3 years (cant remember). They were stats from close games during the last 5 minutes (and overtime). It showed how certain players you assume to be amazing clutch performers actually performed at levels lower than MANY others. Kobe included. Players like Lebron, Carmelo, Gasol, Duncan, etc were far better clutch performers based on their efficiency. Even players you wouldnt imagine, like Jamison. Like I said, Im not saying Kobe isnt great. But the stats dont lie and sometimes our opinion gets a little twisted by the highlights.
Javier:
You see what you want to see
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version